From American Dairymen
It’s not often that the medical and public health establishments express concern about vaccination, but in Pennsylvania, authorities are now advising raw milk producers to “stop immunizing their cattle for Brucella.”
The advisory came in the form of a November 30 letter to Pennsylvania raw dairies from the state’s Department of Agriculture, signed by two officials—David Wolfgang, director of its Bureau of Animal Health and Diagnostic Services, and Lydia Johnson, director of its Bureau of Food Safety and Laboratory Services. In effect, the letter seems to shift blame associated with at least two recent cases of brucellosis in humans from dairy producers to the vaccine itself. In particular, regulators have blamed Udder Milk, a distributor of raw milk in several northeast states, for one of the illnesses and threatened the firm with shutdown. From all accounts, including from Kathy on this blog, Udder continues in operation.
In its letter, the PDA refers to “several cases of brucellosis in humans that have been linked by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) to consumption of raw dairy products in the Southern and Mid-Atlantic states. In these unusual cases, the Brucella isolated is identical to the strain of bacteria used in the RB 51 vaccine. The news release from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention noted that, ‘the only way to avoid this potential exposure to RB 51 is to drink pasteurized milk.’ “
But by the end of its letter, the PDA adds a second option for avoiding exposure to RB 51: discontinue immunizing cows with the Brucella vaccine. “This is especially important if the herd contains Jersey cattle,” the PDA letter says, since all the human infections thus far have “come from vaccinated Jersey cattle.” Pennsylvania has one of the friendliest raw dairy licensing programs in the country, with about 35 dairies covered. Plus, additional dozens of dairies produce without licenses, selling directly to food clubs.
One Pennsylvania raw dairy farmer who doesn’t vaccinate his cows for Brucella told me he was stunned by the PDA letter. “I have never seen anything like it before in my dairy farming career. A state agricultural agency admitting that two cases of human illness have a direct identical bacterial link to vaccinations and advising raw milk farmers to stop immunizing their cattle because of this risk!”
He’s never seen anything like this because the medical establishment is very reluctant to blame vaccines for creating problems of any sort, in animals or humans. Until the PDA stepped up with its transparent assessment, the CDC was blaming raw milk for the problem, and saying the only solution was pasteurizing the milk.
Im crying right now…really i am…I love pennsylvania i always have
we have to all call those two folks up above and give’m a BIG THANX
I THINK THATS IN ORDER
THIS HAS TO GO VIRAL
BUT I DONT KNOW HOW TO DO THIS
NOT FOR UDDERMILK
FOR THE CAUSE OF VACCINES
I LOVE MY COUNTRY
I LOVE MY GOD
THANKYOU GOD
KATHY FROM UDDERMILK
AND A BIG THANKYOU TO MR GUMPERT
THANX FOR LETTING ME POST WHAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING WE NEVER REALLY MADE A STATEMENT
YOU HELPED US TO DO JUST THIS
THANKYOU MR.DAVID GUMPERT
KATHY FROM UDDERMILK
That would be real nice now if New York And New jersey followed suit and so on
When will states start testing raw milk for Brucelosis. It is cheap and easy. CA does and its no big deal
mark mc……the state of pennsylvania tests for brucellosis …but just ONCE A YEAR
I WAS told its almost been eradicated in the state.
however as you know sometimes farmers buy cows from other states and they are shipped to pennsylvania so maybe they were vaccinated before shipped…does that happen ????
and in new york city today we were all wondering if organic farmers vaccinate they’re cows ? can you tell me this I don’t know.thanx kathy from udder milk
Because it is not necessary. Testing occurs when cattle cross state lines and so if a state is considered free of the disease nothing more is needed.
As a raw milk producer, there really isn’t any need to do more than test the herd and then any new animals you bring in.
Michigan tests for it in all commercial herds, but that is NOT the point Mark, seems Pennsylvania has come to the conclusion it is a match to the brucella vaccine, as per what Ken was saying earlier. Also, here in Michigan, we have legal herdshares, but really no truly legal raw milk dairies, as of yet.
Guess, I didn’t finish my statement, no legal raw dairies, no testing for brucellosis in raw dairies. My friends have been milking Jerseys for over 30 years, raised two kids on raw milk and now their grandkids drink it too( cream,butter,ice cream,etc.). They used to milk commercially, but got very tired of milking cows and losing money all at the same time.
On behalf of RAWMI,
RAWMI requires proof of Brucella freedom in their listing approval. RAWMI will review our criteria, but I believe that a Brucella Bang’s test is very easy and cheap and will be the way forward for all raw milk dairies. Brucellosis is an ugly disease giving rise to undulant fever and many times chronic problems. Brucella vaccinations have helped the dairy industry to get the disease under control and has been and still is a very important tool in the fight against bovine brucellosis. This unexpected link between raw milk and possible vaccination strain disease is surprising.
Note to John Dutcher. Please understand that just because 2 farm kids never got sick from drinking their own farm milk, does not indicate that there is no problem. We are always talking about risks of many people drinking. We want many people to get access to raw milk and therefore high precautions need to be taken so that the milk is safe for everyone.
Thanks
It’s not at all surprising. All vaccines shed. People who have autoimmune diseases know this better than anyone else.
Catharina,
With all due respect, I did not say that to portray those children as living proof of the safety of the milk,I apologize if I misrepresented something. Those children drank raw milk for all their growing years, even when the parents were milking commercially and had all the state required testing, vaccinations, etc. My wife and I have been drinking their milk for quite a few years also as have about a dozen other folks too, this being all anecdotal, I am aware. I can very well understand your position as to opening up access to raw milk in a much larger arena and doing it in small steps and very controlled as to keep tptb “happy”. :>)
but why is a vaccine the only way to help the cow catharina?
It can’t be we always have choices
That’s odd. They poison the milk with vaccines and then say, “don’t drink unless pasteurized due to the poison we just added to it”. Same happened with the Pertussis vaccine which created many new cases of whooping cough in children linked to the a specific strain found in the vaccine. Their answer? Get another vaccine. No one considers that not all vaccines are safe or effective.
The use of a brucella vaccine (there have been several) has generated inconsistent results. In effect, when it comes to preventing brucellosis, it has proven itself to be a hit and miss approach with many drawbacks, such as inducing abortion when administered to pregnant cows. The persistence of a serological response in animals of vaccinated herds is also problematic and as such compromises the validity of testing for the disease in such herds. The current rifampicin-resistant mutant B. abortus RB51 strain although stated to exhibit “negligible interference with diagnostic serology”, scientists nonetheless do not know the overall implication of using the above genetically engineered vaccine on animals and likewise humans and the environment that are exposed to products from those vaccinated herds. The use of an ARM (Antibiotic Resistant Marker) gene to a commonly used antibiotic in medicine to develop the RB51 vaccine is especially problematic.
So what basically ken is saying is that its experimental like chemotherapy i think so Catharina.vaccines are not safe.
Ken is smart ….real smart
CATHARINA
question…. as Im not that privy to all vaccines..But I always wonder
why the heck do we or did we need to give the cow help to get better with a vaccine?
can’t a farmer treat illnesses without vaccines?
any farmers I appreciate your knowledge on this
I always thought vaccines were like chemotherapy
bad and basically do more damage and are experimental
and can have adverse chronic side effects.
please advise someone
John D I am originally from Brooklyn and if you think you can survive in Brooklyn by being naive you are mistaken .By the way the bridge is still for sale in Brooklyn and I think you are the type of customer they are looking for .
The idea of creating immunity through the use of a dead or attenuated pathogen that triggers antibody creation is not new. It is well established.
However, the abuse of vaccination for more and more issues and the use of active and or live vaccinations is scary!
Now that this has happened…I wonder if the families effected will sue the vaccine manufactures for injury? Now that there is a known smoking gun and a matching DNA fingerprint. Why not…they do it all the time to raw milk producers.
This time I wonder if the vaccination manufacturer will claim that their product is not deficient and that the farmer is to blame because they failed to pasteurize. Fingers pointing all over the place.
There is no end to the blame game.
The Federal gov’t has granted immunity(no pun intended) to vaccine makers for damages caused by their vaccines. They created a vaccine court which is really a kangaroo court to handle the many cases of injury caused by vaccines. Most don’t win, but some have and the gov’t (actually the taxpayer) pays out the damages. I don’t know how it would work with animal vaccines. I suppose if you could prove that it caused injury to the animal, you might have a case, but the animals rarely speak up unless they start dropping dead at an unusual rate. To question the safety of vaccines is like going against God him/herself. You are harassed, insulted, humiliated… Despite the numerous side effects listed right on the manufacturer’s package insert, to actually claim you had one of them is to go through the gauntlet. Vaccines are loaded with other items-adjuvants, preservatives, foreign proteins, carriers. Any of which can create chronic illness, auto immune diseases, serious inflammatory responses, death. Ask the soldiers who got the experimental anthrax vaccines and subsequent Gulf War syndrome about their safety and redress.
Bob, Well said.
Rarely do vets admit that vaccine cause illness.
Vaccine toxins adulterate and corrupt the body’s physiology nurturing a state of chronic illness in cattle, dogs and cats such as autoimmune diseases where the body attacks itself; they include cancer, leukemia, thyroid disease, rheumatoid arthritis, diabetes, organ failure, skin inflammations, autoimmune haemolytic anaemia etc. They cause a diverse range of problems in animals and there is a growing body of compelling evidence that suggest that the rabies vaccine causes vicious behavior in some dogs. Fortunately there are a growing number of veterinarians beginning to speak out.
Dr. Christine Chambreau DVM stated, “Routine vaccinations are probably the worst thing we do for our animals. They cause all types of illnesses but not directly to where we would relate them definitely to be caused by the vaccine.”
Dr. Jean W Dodds, an eminent vet and researcher suggests, “We also seem to have a tremendous number of dogs with behavioural problems…Vaccines are known to cause inflammation of the brain, as well as lesions throughout the brain and central nervous system. The medical term for this is ‘encephalitis’, and vaccine’s role is acknowledged in the Merck Manual.”
Indeed, the body predictably produces antibodies to the antigens in vaccines; it’s a mistake to assume that the production of those antibodies is an indication of immunity. Consider this report entitled, “A Reappraisal of Humoral Immunity Based on Mechanisms of Antibody‐Mediated Protection Against Intracellular Pathogens, Arturo Casadevall M.D. and Liise-Anne Pirofski, M.D. professors in the Department of Medicine and the Department of Microbiology & Immunology at Albert Einstein College of Medicine , “Clearly, defining protective efficacy of an Ab (a.k.a. antibody) molecule in a predictive fashion is currently beyond the state of immunological science and may not be possible with current reductionistic approaches to scientific problems.” Emphasis in brackets mine.
And based on this inability to predict protective efficacy the medical industry for the last 200 years was and continues to be fixated on injecting every man, woman, child and animal with their toxic vaccine preparations!
Conventional medicine’s simplistic, relentless focus on using toxic chemicals and drugs throughout the course of history demonstrates a profound inadequate understanding of the immune system. Vaccines are merely a continuum of this toxic assault with autoimmune disorders and cancers such as leukemia the predictable result. They represent one of the most insidious forms of abuse ever perpetrated on humanity, especially children.
William,
I am not going to get into a pissing war with you, Iwill just say that my experiences with state and federal legislators and regulators is very much different than yours.
John Dutcher
Pennsylvania’a regulators seem to be a bit more in touch than our state’s( Michigan) and also seem more progressive than the feds too, which I find not only surprising but somewhat refreshing.
John Dutcher
http://www.newsweek.com/trump-bans-cdc-using-these-seven-words-750383
Trump bans the use of 7 words at the CDC. What’s next….book burning?
Can not use:
Evidence based
Science Based
Diversity
Fetus
Transgender
Vulnerable
Entitlement
There sure is evidence that the vulnerable fetus that runs the whitehouse is showing his entitlement and vulnerability. Science will show that even the military embraces the diversity of transgender. If the CDC can not speak…I sure will.
Take that….
Merry Christmas!!
It seems that what Trump and the Republicans do in the USA Trudeau and the Liberals do just the opposite in Canada, with both leaders/parties using the same oppressive tactics.
https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/u.s.-leaders-sound-alarm-over-canadas-new-pro-abortion-loyalty-oath-for-bus?utm_content=bufferfb82f&utm_medium=WCEA%2BBuffer&utm_source=facebook&utm_campaign=WCEA
“Justin Trudeau’s Liberal government has decided to ban any employer from receiving student summer job grants if the employer doesn’t first sign an “attestation” that they agree with abortion and transgender “rights.”
Mark,
Banning the use of words is foolish… Your government needs to step it up a notch and restructure the CDC and allow CDC whistle blowers such as Dr. William Thompson their say in court. All the fat cats and criminals at the top need to go. Of course that’s not going to happen with either of the establishment parties.
In North America governments are becoming increasingly oppressive and intrusive. They seem preoccupied and obsessed with denying freedom of speech and choice rather then adopting constructive policies that respect both; hence the draconian raw milk and vaccination policies etc.
I think Jessy Ventura if he were President would be a far cry better then what have had in the last 30 years.
Ken,
That would be great to see the fat cats thin out a bit, but like you said…. I would vote for Jessy Ventura, beats the hell out of what we have and the sheclinton that we might have had LOL!!
Mark, haha, Trump had NOTHING to do with the “Suggestion” that those 7 words not be used. But, funny, they didn’t include the words Thompson or shred.
How do you know Trump had nothing to do with that? He is the boss of everyone who works at CDC, and HHS. Something as sensitive to so much of his base as eliminating certain touchy words….perhaps he did insist on final approval.
@ Mark: Thought you might be interested in reading more about these 7 words.
https://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/politics/item/27610-is-trump-admin-policing-some-of-the-word-police-s-favorite-words
My experience with Penn State Phds and regulators at Penn State has been wonderful. They are progressive and raw milk friendly. They have helped RAWMI and its members through sharing of research and early findings.
no, I’m not going to take your childish crapola, McAffee. Some people actually learn and improve after they get over being UN-glued by their political candidate being rejected by the Electorate. Not you. You want to disgrace yourself somemore? you’ll get it back in spades.
History shows that when the military embraces /condones pederasty, buggery and all the associated sins of Sodom, the writing is already on the Wall, prophecying the end of that Empire. You’d be a whole lot more valuable to this forum, drawing on what you saw of the filth of the homosexual lifestyle’, as a paramedic, then relating the abhorent facts of the consequences of what homosexuals do.
Real men don’t go to war alongside some whimpering freak who cannot figure out what sex he is.
Lucky you = being able to exercise actual free speech in America. Here in what’s left of perverted Canada, my friend Bill Whatcott is facing gaol time, for publishing what the Bible has to say about gender dysphoria enshrined in law. You and your ilk are so addled you’ve allowed yourselves to be demonized by the the mental illness defined as A-POT-EM-NO-PHILIA. Here’s a newsflash for you = Americans are not one bit interested in paying the astronomical cost to maintain one of your trans-gender mental patients, in his/ her /its delusion
Gordy, You certainly seem to be overly obsessed with sexual perversion, for some really weird reason, who knows, you might consider some counseling for your own paraphilia. Personally, I may be a borderline sufferer of orthorexia nervosa. LOL!!! Sure am glad I have no desire to amputate anything :>)
yes hes overly obsessed
but with GODS WORD
and whats so wrong with that
Man’s word. Written by men. Many claim to speak for God. God has yet to claim any of the writings as his/her/it’s own. Just because a book is old doesn’t make it any more relevant or truthful. Especially one that has been edited and changed over the centuries by MEN. The Madrid Codex, also an ancient text, has depictions of using human sacrifice to bring about rainfall. Written by priests “divinely inspired”. God’s word.
The Spaniards landed in Mexico with a sword in one hand and the bible in the other, they asked these two Mayan guys, do you believe? The first one said no, off went his head, so they asked the second guy again and he said “you bet I believe!!”
Wondered where ya been Gordy, can always count on you for a good chuckle and a grin. LOL!!
And Now, you speak for All Americans??? ,but yet you live in Canada eh??
Mark,
It seems as though Penn State is much more open to the idea than our Farm Bureau/Dow Chemical controlled Michigan State University.
John,
Penn State has been very open to raw milk food safety and has participated in joint study and constructive research. Penn state is a model for progress.
John,
Had to look up Orthorexia nervosa. I have met so many on that path…. We call them the “ice chest carriers” They always carry “small ice chests” with jars of perfect food that meet their extreme criteria. Augonus followers were a classic group. Raw chicken, raw everything….raw hamburger…Raw Kefir and of course some Kombucha and Saur Kraut. Yum.
The ice chest came along even if you invite them out to dinner!! Got to love them all.
Mark,
Orthorexia is a rather newly “discovered condition”, it has been a diagnosis for only a short while. I think it probably was thought up by Dean Foods and Monsanto’s ad firms, to put a “crazy” look to people that not only care about what they eat, but also to lump us into a group of folks that have become obsessed with every aspect of their food, we All know some of those folks LOL!! I do NOT want any raw meat, not even sushi, Yuck!!
Mark,
I said that tongue in cheek, I, for one, do not really believe in all this psycho babble, people are weird wherever you go LOL!! I don’t carry coolers full of food usually, but do bring my milk and cream with me when on the road :>)