Four Ways to Light Up the Darkness for Food Rights


This blog has chronicled seemingly endless abuses of power against farmers merely trying to do what farmers have done for centuries—grow food and sell it to friends and neighbors. 

It seems at times as if few beyond those directly affected are paying attention, especially when those in authority wield their powers with an iron fist. We have seen arbitrary decisions, like the court injunction placed on Maine raw dairy farmer Dan Brown that drove him out of farming, and the huge fine and other regulatory actions against Michigan farmer Mark Baker that destroyed his hog business. South Dakota late last year tightened rules against raw milk at the behest of regulators. 

Yet, in all these places, and others, we see signs that farmers and their customers are gaining adherents, making the old power structure shake and bend. They are doing it using old-fashioned tools and new techniques alike to publicize these injustices, and they are doing it with increasing skill. 

I thought it would be useful to run through the techniques food rights proponents are using to influence growing numbers of people, with growing effectiveness. 

Old-fashioned political organizing. Take Maine, The gubernatorial veto of legislation allowing very small farms, like that owned by Dan Brown, to sell raw milk directly to individuals created a huge backlash against a governor who wanted to be seen as friendly to farmers. Now, the farmers and consumers who organized for Food Sovereignty ordinances in ten Maine towns and who organized for the doomed legislation last summer, are at it again, fighting for the same legislation the governor vetoed last summer. 

Lo and behold, a number of the opponents to last year’s legislation have changed their tunes, reports Heather Retberg, one of the organizers of the legislative initiative, as well as the Food Sovereignty ordinances in effect in ten towns. Those singing a different tune at a legislative hearing this week include the Farm Bureau and the Cheese Guild—formerly opponents to helping small dairies to sell raw milk without the need for permits. Even the state Department of Agriculture is now in favor, which suggests the governor may well be on board as well. 

Similar organizing efforts are going on around the country. In Massachusetts, a campaign is under way to legalize raw milk in the small town of Groton. In  South Dakota, a serious legislative effort is under way to loosen restrictions tightened last year.  In New Jersey, where legislation to legalize the sale of raw milk from farms was defeated last year, a new legislative effort to allow sales from dairy farms is being revived. And in California, a couple of years of negotiation between owners of small dairies involved in herdshare arrangements, and state agriculture officials, has led to introduction of “home dairy farm” bill in the Assembly; it would “authorized farm families in California to exchange, share, or sell limited quantities of raw milk produced at a home dairy farm that is in excess of household needs…” via less regulation than necessary for permitted dairies. 

 Leveraging the legal system. We know that judges tend to accept the opinions of regulators over farmers and their supporters. But we may have begun to see a shift in the Mark Baker case in Michigan, where the judge showed sensitivity to the rights of the farmer, so much so that the state was afraid to try the case. The best example we have of how the legal system can be helpful is last spring’s legal victory by Wisconsin farmer Vernon Hershberger.  He left his fate in the hands of a dozen of his fellow citizens, who quickly understood what was happening, and not only acquitted him of all licensing charges, but saw several join his food club. 

The effect has been to freeze Wisconsin’s campaign against raw dairy farmers. Sure, it’s not an end to the the dairy industry campaign against raw milk farmers, but it is a shift. 

 Keep that video camera handy.  Michigan hog farmer Mark Baker was accused by some of fomenting violence because he owned guns, but in reality he became a force to be reckoned with because he aimed video cameras, not guns, on regulators seeking to carry out their corporate agenda. He had been producing periodic videos for months prior to the fateful hearing last month that wound up sanctioning his raising of supposedly “feral” pigs, in contravention of a new state regulation. 

But the use of a video camera by his supporters to capture the now famous assistant attorney general, Harold Martin, threatening him has turned into a near scandal for Martin’s boss, Attorney General Bill Schuette. Now we learn that a political opponent has this week declared his candidacy for Michigan attorney general. I don’t know anything about Schuette’s political opponent, but I do know that Schuette won’t be helped in his re-election campaign by repeated showing of the assistant AG telling Baker, “You don’t get it, do you.”

Exploit the social media. The substantial crowds that turned out for hearings on a Maryland raw milk legislative proposal as well as a Massachusetts town’s efforts to tighten raw milk regulations (Foxboro) didn’t just happen by accident.  Much of the outpouring was due to the skillful use of social media—by activist Liz Reitzig in Maryland and a variety of supporters of MA farmer Terri Lawton in MA. 

Supporters of Mark Baker used Facebook to enable the video of Harold Martin to go viral, and now the Michigan Attorney General’s office has been so deluged with calls its officials are reportedly asked people to file their complaints via email instead. 

Yes, farmers and their supporters are getting the hang of what it takes to fight back. They are learning to use the tools that were part of their subjugation. There is a long way to go, and there will be defeats along the way. But, as Heather Retberg put it to me, “the ground has begun to move.” It has begun to move because brave farmers have stood up and let their stories be told. They are telling those stories more skillfully than ever and, unbeknownst to organizers, lots of people have been listening, and learning. 

The tools are there. More people are worried about their food, and want good food. The word is getting around. 

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Sylvia Gibson
Sylvia Gibson
March 7, 2014 4:18 am

Strength in numbers. keep up the good fight!

mark mcafee
March 7, 2014 4:46 am

Show up, stand up, speak up!! Utilize a diversity of strategic methods that amass the consumers into one voice behind their farmers. Each strategy to match the political environment in which the battle rages. Alas, the camera is mightier than the gun and the “dollar vote” beats everything. Incessant, continuous, education is one of the most powerful tools yet to be broadly unleashed. It is hard work but it is extremely rewarding. Teach, teach, teach every day!!

David thank you for noting this piece of progress. Tomorrow I fly to Santa Fe NM as an elected delegate representing CA farmers at the 112th National Farmers Union convention. We will try to set national policy that supports farmers and enhances nutrition for our nations consumers. Tom Vilsack, the sec of Ag will be speaking. Last year we adopted four huge raw milk policy positions including support for responsibly produced raw milk, interstate commerce of raw milk! This is huge! It also demonstrated the alliances between CA, Pennsylvania and other raw milk producing states. When we stood up together, the rest of the states took jealous notice! And even voted with us because of our compelling arguments.

Raw milk is emerging. Next step….lets make sure we use good standards and it is consistently safe. Raw milk dairymen are our brothers keepers. Mentoring must be unselfishly exercised and “people before profit” must be priority one.

Shana Milkie
March 7, 2014 2:37 pm

This is a great list, David. It is both useful and a cause for optimism. Most of all, it reminds us that we can never give up!

D. Smith
D. Smith
March 7, 2014 3:22 pm

[quote from David’s article]: ” . . . so deluged with calls its officials are reportedly asked people to file their complaints via email instead.” [end quote]

It’s been my sad experience that emails are often simply deleted and thus are kinda sorta useless in this fight. You know, someone in the office smiles, presses a delete button and says “oops” – and then there’s a toothy smile that follows.

If you really want to DO something and you can’t “show up and stand up”, get out a pen and some paper and a stamped envelope and WRITE your concerns and MAIL it via USPS to your local/State regulators. The only time email is plausible is when the deadline is too close for the mail call. But likely the email will have no impact, so keep deluging them with phone calls and hand-written letters. Or type it on your computer, print if off, hand sign it and send it off in the mail. Whatever works, but email is not the best option.

Sylvia Gibson
Sylvia Gibson
March 7, 2014 3:26 pm

I agree with that D. Smith

March 7, 2014 11:10 pm

Great article. As well as all these things, I recommend challenging all those flawed, inflammatory, politically-motivated anti-raw milk articles. If some scientist, doctor, or bureaucrat has written nonsense, don’t let them get away with it. For example, this article – – there’s a place for ‘comments’ at the bottom – similarly with many blog posts. So, how about we add ours, because this person cites total bunk and parents will read this and believe it. For example, citing “two deaths” due to raw milk when it was due to illegal queso fresco, not putting it into context of how many more deaths are caused by other foods, and saying that “Well-designed studies have repeatedly shown that raw milk and pasteurized milk contain equivalent levels of proteins, carbohydrates, calcium, vitamins and lactose-reducing enzymes” when we know that this is not true – these studies did not compare raw milk with pasteurized – they compared industrial milk with industrial milk, likely from the same CAFO factory. Of course if you take unpasteurized CAFO industrial milk – well, “Garbage in, garbage out” as they say. Claeys-et-al(2013) is one of these “studies” which fabricates “evidence” that there is no nutritional benefit to raw – and people lap this stuff up, believing it is true. Did they compare grass-fed, microdairy, organic, A2 Guernsay or Jersey unpasteurized and nonhomogenized milk with factory IPP milk? NO. So the study is entirely invalid and they mislead the gullible public into thinking that pasteurization, homogenization and factory farming results in NO difference.

Sylvia Gibson
Sylvia Gibson
March 7, 2014 11:31 pm

OMG They wioll regulate the home farmer right out of business. Plus according to this bill, I can’t pick up anyone elses milk and bring it to them, What BS!

Shawna Barr
March 8, 2014 12:54 am

Sylvia, the home dairy farm is already regulated out of business. Under CA’s current law, a farmer with one cow may not sell one drop of milk to her neighbor unless she has a Grade A dairy license. The requirements is this bill are MUCH less than those required to obtain a dairy license.
March 8, 2014 7:39 am

Recent legislative activity in several others states

Hunger for real food never gives up.

Sylvia Gibson
Sylvia Gibson
March 8, 2014 11:37 am

Wow, I’ve been gone from Ca for about 3 years, they moved fast.

March 8, 2014 12:12 pm

There is certainly no person, corporation, or government agency that has the right to block our access to the food of our choice. Be leery of these so called raw milk bills.

In a world so full of wealth and waste there is no excuse for sickness and starvation.

People who have switched to raw milk(fresh milk) know it’s safety and value.

The CDC has inadvertently proven that raw milk has a negative risk factor and prevents foodborne illness.

As many as 15% of Americans get sick each year from foodborne diseases, according to the CDC.

Health officials in Minnesota say based on a 10-year(CDC sponsored) study that only 1.7% of the state’s residents who drink raw milk get sick each year.,0,1666103.story#axzz2tOoRRo3j

This means people who don’t drink raw milk are 9 times more likely to suffer a foodborne illness.

March 8, 2014 7:28 pm

saying “… certainly no person, corporation, or government agency that has the right to block our access to the food of our choice.t”, shows that you have no first-hand experience in this area of the law / how such situations play-out in the real world Raw Milk Mike.
… Bureaucratic adversaries of the Campaign for REAL MILK cleave to the same school of thought as Adolph Hitler / Josep Stalin and, laterly, Barry Suetoro ( known officially as Barack Obama. Whose ultimate position is : “MIGHT MAKES RIGHT”. ie. : ‘we have the guns’.
In the photogallery of my website, see a photo of Fraser Health Inspector Rod Asplin. on December 16 2009. A minute before that pic was taken, he’d received word over his cellphone that we were NOT allowed to take away our property, our milk. Saying to me = straight out of the script taught in their schools of public administration = “nothing personal, just doing my job”, the smirk on the face of this little prick gives away how he’s gloating about showing us ‘who’s the Boss’. Inspector Asplin could do that ONLY because he knew that if I got cantankerous, the RCMP would be on the scene within minutes = GUNS DRAWN. No, I’m not exaggerating.
… In the anti-abortion thing, and in the detax thing, and in the environmentalist thing I was in, mild-mannered John Q Citizens make all sorts of noises about “rights”. But when confronted with armed, govt. -uniformed thugs, doing something which is beyond argument wrong, they nearly all retreat … dazed and confused, grumbling to their little coterie about “let’s get a Petition going / let’s find a pro bono lawyer.” I see these people 20 years later, still mindboggled by the brainwashing they got in the public fool system, versus their own experience
… Our problem is : to find the way to undo the ‘cognitive dissonance” suffered by ordinary people, when told by race traitors in high places : “we’re from the government. We’re here to help you”, as they take the very food out of our mouths

mark mcafee
March 9, 2014 3:57 am

I am in Santa Fe New Mexico at the 112th National Farmers Union convention serving as a CA delegate. It is at 7200 foot of elevation…..everyone is a little short of breath. Secretary of Ag USDA Tom Vilsack speaks on Monday. Lots of chatter about raw milk. Lots of talk about conventional dairies dying off.

March 9, 2014 9:21 am

Hasn’t fluid milk consumption been a very small part of the dairy industry for a very long time?

March 9, 2014 9:25 am

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Aired January 22, 2014 – 8:00am;
My post was a response to My Heckman’s link. The main point was “Be leery of these so called raw milk bills.” I’ve seen that smirk you’re referring to, at the Hershberger trial. You are really singing to the quire on this one.

Ken Conrad
Ken Conrad
March 9, 2014 4:12 pm

The objective is “increased efficiency” by increasing the “average herd size”, in other words, cheap food at the expense of small family farms and rural communities.

I can assure you raw milk sales don’t fit into this scenario.

I sold my quota about 18 years ago and this just goes to proves my point that I made back in the early 1990’s, “The government and processing industry want absolute control of the dairy industry and are therefore, systematically introducing policies and regulations designed to get rid of small family farms”. If they can’t take control of the dairy industry via quota and health regulations then they will attempt other ways.

If cheap food is what the consumer wants, cheap adulterated sterile crap is what they will get!


Sylvia Gibson
Sylvia Gibson
March 9, 2014 11:26 pm

“If cheap food is what the consumer wants, cheap adulterated sterile crap is what they will get!”

That is scarey for those of us who don’t want that crap. At times it seems harder and harder to find unadulterated foods, not just raw dairy, but other foods as well.

I was at the grocery store the other day and looked at the bulk walnuts (country of origin was not labeled on the container) $11.99/ lb. This was not a chain grocery store. 3 apples were $6.34. A bag of Ca navel oranges $8.99. My sister will be sending me some walnuts and almonds from the farmers market in Ca.

I hear the price of boiled cafo milk will be going up soon. From one story, it is because they are exporting it to china…

4 pints = 1/2 gal

mark mcafee
March 10, 2014 4:30 am


Interesting question for Sec Vilsack about opportunities in raw milk…remember, the USDA has little to do with raw milk. The entire national raw milk show is run by the FDA and the NCIMS or the processors.

The USDA runs the federal marketing orders for national milk pricing…ie “the federal milk pool system”. Actually, the USDA has already brought a closeted blessing CA raw milk. Under the 2014 Farm Bill, the California Milk pool will be allowed to be merged into the Federal Milk pool system. This move if voted by the CA dairy producers will then exclude raw milk from the huge financial burdens of milk pool taxation. Nationally the USDA has little to do with raw milk. I have not met a USDA that was outwardly antirawmilk. In fact I have shared OPDC raw milk with high level USDA reps in San Diego when Dr. Heckman invited me to speak at a soils conference.

I will encourage Sec Vilsack to regulate all food and keep the FDA away from anything edible.

March 10, 2014 6:06 am

one wonders when we’re going to see the end of the nonsense …. a recent item on DAIRY HERD news …. starts out pretending to comment on calves being raised on Pasteur-ized milk [ what?! ] then quickly turns in to a full-tilt rant, regurgitating CDC propaganda note-for-note.
“bad communications corrupt good morals”

March 10, 2014 6:35 am

I urge you to ask Sec Vilsack about raw milk if you get the chance.

In 2009, Dr. Kathleen Merrigan, USDA Deputy Secretary visited Rutgers University, and was promoting the new initiative “Know Your Farmer, Know Your Food” This was about a year after the raw milk seminars at Rutgers. Mark McAfee from Organic Pastures Dairy was one of the several seminar speakers.

Ever since I was involved in hosting those events, I have been inundated with this question: Do you know a farmer? Do you know a farmer? Where can I get this special farm fresh food? So, I asked Dr. Merrigan about this. To paraphrase her brief remarks, she was aware of a huge underground network for raw milk sales – and she said that some of it works very well, some of it does not.
J Heckman

Ken Conrad
Ken Conrad
March 10, 2014 11:10 am

For those who wish to dogmatically adopt certain applications of science as fact and beyond reproach, this would be a good article to read.

I can remember when dairy farmers in my area first started to use antibiotics to treat mastitis. They were indeed a miracle drug and were used with impunity by both farmer and veterinarian.

They were the product of an ever-growing paranoia towards microorganisms spurned on by the germ theory of disease and the medical profession’s ever-growing fear of microbes. The role that microbes played in our lives was poorly understood (it still is) and what knowledge we did have of this unseen world was more or less ignored. It was believed that antibiotics could do no harm and that they represented “the” instrument that would allow mankind to triumph over disease.

It was probably in the dairy industry where antibiotic use was first restricted and regulated because it soon became apparent that they could not make cheese if antibiotics were present in the milk. The power of the almighty buck is what initially led to the restriction of antibiotics in food.

It wasn’t long before farmers were receiving substantial fines if antibiotics were discovered in their milk. Word was also going around that the industry was considering holding the dairy farmer liable for the milk stored in one of those milk silos at the cheese processing plant if it were to become contaminated with antibiotics. There’s a lot of milk in one of those silos and once contaminated with antibiotics the milk had to be discarded, or used somewhere else!?

Well it appears that mankind is hell-bent on learning the hard way and it also appears that they are still learning since antibiotics continue to be used along with arsenic and ARM (antibiotic resistant marker) gene laden GMO’s as feed additives in the agriculture industry with the blessing of tptb.

If one considers the use of peanut oil as an ingredient in antibiotics and vaccines, this merely adds to the dilemma of acquired immune deficiency or malfunction.

To paraphrase CS Lewis, “tribulations cannot cease until God either sees our arrogant nature remade or sees that our remaking is now hopeless.”


mark mcafee
March 10, 2014 6:14 pm

After Sec Vilsack spoke and made a big deal about Organics, beginning farmers, value added products, I was able to shake his hand and make the case that raw milk is the ultimate in local small producer value added products. Dr. Joe Heckman: consider the organic seed planted and message sent.
March 10, 2014 6:35 pm

Thank you for planting the seed for the “R-Word”. With care and endless teaching it will grow.
This reminds me of a 1997 study by Mark Lipson at OFRF: Searching for the “O-Word”
Before that survey very little organic farming research was being done by the USDA or Land Grants. I think that study was instrumental in bringing attention to the needs of the organic farming community.
There may be a lesson here for raw milk.

mark mcafee
March 10, 2014 7:31 pm

Dr joe,

Time, patience, demonstrated food safety excellence, market growth, continued decline of fluid pasteurized milk sales and then the market watchers will begin to connect the dots and recall these early comments. At that time, the organic raw milk seeds planted today will germinate and bloom. There is nothing like success to get a markets attention.

Ora Moose
Ora Moose
March 10, 2014 11:25 pm

Raw milk is in pretty good or bad depending on how you see it and where you live. I wonder if mixing absinthe with your raw milk doubles your chances of dying from it? Been there done that and still alive.

Ora Moose
Ora Moose
March 10, 2014 11:36 pm

Sorry, quick edit meant to say

Raw milk is in pretty good or bad company depending… Green milk for St Patrick’s day anyone?

mark mcafee
March 11, 2014 3:54 am

During the NFU convention today in Santa Fe NM, the delegates reviewed argued over, and adopted pages of national official farmer grass roots policy. One of the official edits that I stood and amended was this. There is a statement that re enforces the private ownership right of producers to own and posses animals. I stood and asked that the words “and the products of those animals” be added to the 2014 NFU policy language. This drives directly at the right of cow share owners to buy a cow, and in doing so, also own and posses the milk from that animal. During my speech in the defense of this language, I noted that states have denied animal owners the right to access the products of those animals. To this statement, the delegates all gave a big sigh of disbelief. The motion and amendment was seconded supported and passed with unanimous vote!!

We now have NFU, the oldest grass roots farmer organization in America with an official policy statement that can be used to define and defend private ownership of cows and their raw milk!

I find it very progressive that there is no hint of anti raw milk policy being suggested at this 2014 national convention. Pennsylvania and Nebraska ( and other states as well ) stood with California 100% when it came to raw milk.

Shawna Barr
March 11, 2014 3:45 pm

On behalf of private herd operators everywhere, who rely on this freedom as our only way to provide our community with farm direct food, thank you for speaking up on this issue!

March 11, 2014 5:57 pm

The ruling in Michael Schmidt’s case went against him. Three judges of the Ontario Court of Appeal ruled that the way raw milk was being distributed via his cowshare, was caught by the provincial laws. In a preliminary round, fresh evidence had been presented for the constitutional challenge to the legislation, but in its ruling today, the Court declined to entertain that material, at all. Thus, the argument that raw milk is “self-medication” was not canvassed. C-55843 2014 188 Court of Appeal for Ontario : Her Majesty the Queen in right of Ontario versus Michael Schmidt

UN-learned as I am in the law, I told people that the thing was in trouble from the very start, because, as convened originally, then operated up to the time of the govt. came down on them like a ton of bricks … the cowshare was an informal, oral agreement. Nothing wrong with that, as long as everyone’s happy. A piece of paper being only the evidence of that agreement = “meeting of the minds”. But the govt. has prevailed because Michael Schmidt et al. ‘did not have their papers in order, comrade’. The pivotal point : the Court faulted him for failing to produce hard evidence that those who were getting the milk, did actually own the cows.

It is telling that, after the raid on Glenncoulton farm in 2006 – when the bright lights atop the legal system decided that the appropriate response to people farming to feed themselves was, “shock and awe” personified by a 22-member SWAT team – the cowshare carried on without a hitch, ‘til this very day. As well, all the other dozens of cowshares in Ontari~ari~O carried-on too (thank you very much) with the authorities well-aware of who they were and what they were doing. What does it say that = out of ( probably ) millions of servings of raw milk in that time, from those dairies, no-one got sick? It says everything you need to know, about relative risk of harm … to anyone with the intellectual integrity to admit it. Which lets out the “health authorities” whose continued employment is conditional upon approval of the Dairy cartel! Corrupt? The corruption in the Stalin-ist dairy supply-management system, is beyond words.

To the best of my knowledge, after the 2006 raid, the Glenncoulton farm was re-organized. Those who were serious about getting REAL MILK had to put up some serious $$ to purchase a fraction-ated interest in the ‘piece of dirt’, ie. the farm itself. After which, with their names on-title, able to prove that they, each, own an interest in it, the usufruct of that farm – especially the raw milk – is their private property. ‘Say no more … and don’t come ‘round here bothering me with your steenking badges!’

The day I met her, I told Mrs Jongerden that, all we needed to do in order to stay on the right side BC provincial law, was, have handy a snapshot on any given day, of the group of owners of the cows … a list of names, alongside the list of the animals in our herd. British jurisprudence is settled that a “herd”, as a group of animals, is a definable asset. Therefore in light of this decision by the Court of Appeal for Ontario in the Schmidt case, proof that certain Persons own a certain asset, is all we need to substantiate the legality of our contract for “agistment”.

Siegfried Gursche was one of the pioneers of the health food movement in North America. He said “find a way to tell the Truth”. 30 years’ worth of slogging through the halls of Her Majesty’s Courts taught me one thing for sure ; the answer to the asinine, utterly IL-logical policies of overbearing meddlesome bureaucrats, is NOT going to be found in Court. “Justice” ? : that’s not where they keep it. Michael Schmidt has 60 days in which to put in an appeal to the Supreme Court of Canada. I say : “don’t bother”.

The Schmidt decision is a classic “Punch + Judy show” … culminating in this latest bit of rank thuggery tricked-up in sophisticated language, for no good reason other than maintaining the Stalin-ist dairy quota system. The right response to communists, is : out-producing them. Plodding-along, doing the real work, day in and day out, asserting our right to use and enjoy the property God has put in our hands, for which we are appointed to be good stewards. If dragged into Court by the bureau-crazies, then we stand up and give the best answer we can, prepared to take the brunt of their stupidity. In my own situation, that means, on June 5th 2014 –when my time in the penalty-box is up – I’ll be right back at it, finding a way to educate people that whole fresh pure, un-cooked milk from grass-fed cows = the finest food in the world = is part of my religious heritage in this, the land of milk and honey.

So we are disappointed, but not for long … “hard-pressed on every side but not crushed; perplexed but not in despair ; persecuted but not abandoned ; struck down but not destroyed” The Campaign for REAL MILK is a movement which is gaining ground by the day. In the larger picture, this ruling stands as the last word, for the moment, but in the long run, it will be irrelevant

D. Smith
D. Smith
March 13, 2014 3:00 am

Yeah, but if raw milk is totally illegal in Canada, and they know to be watching people like Michael Schmidt and Gordon Watson, how long with it take them (the Canadian officials/regulators) to start their gun-toting on-farm visits again? I don’t understand how coming here and telling people what your intentions are is going to be a benefit, Gordon. Basically you’re a black marketeer who just blew your own whistle, no? I mean, YOU (Gordon) want transparency so you can do what you do legally – but the gubmint up there doesn’t allow that (yet, maybe never) so I don’t understand . . . or does Canada allow herdshare/cowshare agreements in some areas of Canada? I’m sorry if this sounds like stupid questions but I don’t follow Canadian law much, basically I only know what’s talked about here in spurts and starts.

March 13, 2014 4:28 am

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D. Smith
D. Smith
March 13, 2014 2:04 pm

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Sylvia Gibson
Sylvia Gibson
March 14, 2014 1:54 am

My dad will be 89 this year, he eats everything, including bacon, eggs (cooked in bacon grease) and has never in his entire life watched what he ate. He even eats processed crap I wouldn’t touch. He salts most of his foods. His labs are “normal” to include cholesterol. Oh yea, he smoked from the time he was 12 until cigarettes where 35 cents a pack, he thought that was to much for a pack and just quit.

Food be thy medicine.