The Food Rights Firestorm Spreads: Is Big Dairy Helping Regulators Use MA As Test to Bust Raw Milk Buying Clubs?

The Boston Tea PartyI’d like to personally thank the U.S. Food and Drug Administration for articulating its food-rights policy. I know, I don’t usually have nice things to say about the FDA, but I’m feeling appreciative because the agency has made it so much easier to explain the food-rights struggle to large numbers of people. Just to re-cap, the agency’s position, as articulated in its response to the suit filed by the Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund (described in my previous post), is three-fold:

–There’s no absolute right to any raw unprocessed food, unless the FDA says it’s okay;

–There’s no right to good health, except as approved by the FDA.

–There’s no right for citizens to contract privately for their food.

More Americans appear to be getting the message. The outcry in California against SB 201 in 2008 was a first sign. Then, of course, the people’s will was thwarted by Gov. Schwarzenegger’s veto. Over the past six months, we’ve had the popular push in Wisconsin, a state where the regulators have gone bonkers to eliminate raw milk, to pressure legislators to approve making it available from the farm; the proposed law now sits on the desk of a governor who has indicated he hears the consumer outrage (but is certainly subject to the not-so-gentle whispers from Big Dairy and the FDA).

And now, just within the last few weeks, we see a firestorm building in Massachusetts over a seemingly small but arbitrary decision by a regulator to restrict consumer access to milk. Unlike Wisconsin, which never officially sanctioned raw milk sales, Massachusetts has long allowed sales from dairy farms, and delivery to consumers by any of a half dozen or more buying clubs.

Everything was working fine in Massachusetts—more dairy farmers producing ever more raw milk and in the process creating a revival for the state’s moribund dairy industry. No hint of illnesses in over a decade.

The Massachusetts Department of Agriculture seemed to be doing its job of supporting state agriculture by encouraging raw-milk-producing dairy farmers rather than fighting them, like the regulators in neighboring New York state. Late last year, MDAR publicly supported dairy farmer Doug Stephans in his fight with state and local public health authorities and helped him gain approval to sell raw milk from his Framingham, MA, dairy.

But then something happened early this year to change MDAR’s approach. The agency sent cease-and-desist letters to four buying clubs that had been quietly and efficiently delivering raw milk to consumers who didn’t want to burn the gasoline or were unable because they don’t have cars or even are disabled, to travel the hour or two hours to dairy farms in central Massachusetts and pick up their milk. (The buying clubs essentially enter into contracts with individual consumers to pick up and deliver their milk.) The letters weren’t well received by the owners of the buying clubs, and they began mobilizing support from their customers and legislators to challenge MDAR. They argued that Massachusetts laws and regulations don’t specifically prohibit the buying clubs, making the cease-and-desist letters so much paper.

MDAR seems to have agreed, because two weeks ago it proposed a new regulation to prohibit the buying clubs. The regulation would make Massachusetts the first state in the country to explicitly ban raw milk buying clubs.

In advance of a hearing May 10 on the proposed regulation, a Massachusetts legislator friendly with the MDAR commissioner, Scott Soares, set up a meeting last Monday for the regulator to discuss with a few consumers his reasons for going after the buying clubs.

Surprise–15 consumers and farmers showed up for the meeting, and started peppering the startled Soares with questions about why he was taking an action that will inevitably reduce consumers’ access to raw milk, and quite possibly put at least a few of the more than twenty dairy farms selling raw milk out of business.

These 15 consumers weren’t just a few people off the street. They included some prominent local citizens who know how the system works—a local lawyer, a public health professional, the head of a nonprofit organization, and a high-ranking federal regulator. The latter, Hugh Kaufman, was Chief Investigator with the Environmental Protection Agency’s Ombudsman Office, among other high-level positions over a forty-year period. 

Kaufman put Soares on the spot during the Monday meeting when Soares said at one point that there was as much passion from anti-raw-milk people as from pro-raw-milk people. Who were these anti-raw-milk people, Kaufman inquired.

“He said that large dairy producers had communicated to him,” recalls Kaufman. “I asked him who they were. He said he couldn’t tell me.”

But Kaufman says Soares talked about concerns the dairy representatives have “that if something goes wrong with raw milk, it will hurt all the dairies.” (This is a familiar refrain by the conventional dairy industry that has no basis, since public health and health regulators are quick in any suspected illness from raw milk to alert consumers, in shrill terms, to the distinction between raw and pasteurized milk.)

That led Kaufman to inquire whether Soares had written any of this down. Soares said he hadn’t.

Kaufman maintains that when government officials have conversations with industry representatives while new regulations are being considered, the officials are supposed to open a docket—make a written record of what happened and when.

I should say at this point that four other people who were at the meeting with Soares have confirmed Kaufman’s account of what occurred. Moreover, I tried via phone and email to obtain comment from Soares. His publicity official emailed me Thursday asking what I wanted to inquire about. I wrote her back that I wanted his version about what was said at the Monday meeting about his contacts with dairy officials. I didn’t receive a response.

Kaufman thinks he understands the problem: “Soares couldn’t handle 15 knowledgeable people. In the process, he opened up a pandora’s box. Now his legal problem is that he is hiding from the public the names of the large business entities, that he is meeting with, who are pushing him to restrain trade. As well as hiding from the general public, the fact that he’s being pushed by these business entities in the first place. Not making a public record of these ex-parte discussions with the big dairies lobbying him to harm their competitors, during an Official Government Rulemaking, is NOT legit.”

I’ll add to Kaufman’s impressions. We know that the FDA and Midwest agriculture officials have targeted raw milk buying clubs—the case of Wisconsin buying club owner Max Kane and the pressure to force him to testify about where he obtains his milk and who his customers are is a direct result of the official crackdown.

What MDAR’s Soares seems to be saying is that the dairy industry is part and parcel of the campaign to hamper raw milk distribution by cracking down on buying clubs.

And now we have the official FDA policy to not only limit access to natural foods it deems dangerous, but to oppose private contracts (such as via buying clubs).

At least it’s all out in the open. Now it’s up to consumers to let the regulators and politicians know how they feel about this joint government-industry enforcement campaign to deprive citizens of health-giving foods of their choice. The next big opportunity comes May 10, at 10 am at 100 Cambridge St, Conference Room A, 2nd Floor in Boston, Mass. Come one, come all. It’s all within shouting distance of where the real Boston Tea Party took place.

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Mark McAfee
April 30, 2010 10:58 pm


You are so right….finnally now we know the agenda and the positions. No more hiding and denial.

It is a Big Ag and FDA brotherhood backed up by years of FDA policy making that all occurred behind closed doors in favor of pasteurization and drug pushing.

The FDA is anti-wholefood, anti-prevention, anti-health, anti-freedom and anti-rights. They said it themselves.

To be pro any of these things would create fairness and competition to its Big Ag anti-biotic abusing and GMO cloned genetics buddies and most of all their drug pushing homicidal pharma industry alliances.

We now have the… Read more »

milk farmer
April 30, 2010 11:23 pm

Gee…I guess that those that have been castigating Big Dairy for controlling the public officials that supposedly serve the citizens, were right.

It’s time to get this corruption out in the open, and show the people (even those that don’t drink raw milk) how business exerts pressure so that the public interest isn’t served (we all know it, but there is something significant about when they actually admit it). This is the problem with todays government…at all levels. The personhood granted to corporations will be the death knell of this country (if we let it be). Our founding fathers… Read more »

Mark McAfee
April 30, 2010 11:50 pm

Ron Paul would certainly appreciate the FDA Dismissal document.

State Senator Dean Florez needs to run for some high level congressional office so he can hold hearings and expose the FDA just like he did during SB 201 in CA in 2008.

The "Smoking Gun" has been found.


Blair McMorran
May 1, 2010 1:27 am

This is such a thrill. Thank you David, Mark and especially FTCLDF for shining the light on freedom, and printing the truth!

I will distribute in CO.

milk farmer
May 1, 2010 1:45 am

something tells me there is going to be a spike in traffic at this blog………..

Mark McAfee
May 1, 2010 2:00 am

The FDA has just been petitioned by the dairy industry to no longer permit or allow any use of dairy terms for non dairy products like "SOYMILK" . In the EU this was done years ago.

Why is the US Dairy Industry so behind the power curve?? Beans, Almonds, Rice and even Hemp do not have teats but I guess they have money.

I am very glad this is finnally happening. It will be very interesting to see if the FDA does anything to their best friends in the SOYMILK industry.


Bob "BubbaBozo" Hayles
May 1, 2010 3:16 am

Gumpy, with your permission I’ll post this here. It was a comment to your previous post that I unfortunately posted 2 minutes before you put this article up, and that older article won’t get much traffic with this new news, so if its OK, I’ll re-post it here. Its still pertinant…perhaps even moreso now. Todays news will engender even more complacency.


"Sadly, and I cannot believe I’m saying this, but sometimes, like right now, I fear we will fail.

I haven’t changed my mind about our right to make out own nutritional choices. I haven’t changed my mind… Read more »

May 1, 2010 6:01 am

No offense Bob but I don’t think I’d take lack of comments on a particular blog as an indication of lack of consumer caring.

Now, what David described today is a good indication that consumers care.

Alyssa Pellicano
May 1, 2010 6:32 am

Bob, dont mean to be raggin on you, but havent you made it through that six pack yet?

There are perhaps thousands or 10s of thousands of us who dont have the means, time, or political clout to DO something spectacular about these issues, Bob. But what we do DO everyday is vote with our food dollar and purchase whole, unadulterated, unprocessed foods including raw milk. Ive read where it doesnt take a huge percentage of the population to make a difference this way and to get noticed. Look at what has been happening!!! Weve got their attention, and I… Read more »

Mark McAfee
May 1, 2010 7:14 am

Dear Bob,

I hear what you have said….

Perhaps your expectations of mass numbers of people being able to take off time from their jobs and get baby sitters and go hundreds of miles out of their way is expecting too much.

I do not expect the people to do any thing other than protest by doing one simple profound thing….

"VOTE WITH THEIR DOLLARS"and chose healthy whole unprocessed foods.

Each citizen can only do what they can do. People will fight when they need to fight. During the CA fight in 2008…1400 people showed up for three senate and assembly… Read more »

milk farmer
May 1, 2010 7:15 am

Bob…you might want to consider that the conclusion that you are (or aren’t) drawing from your blog reflects the entire raw milk community…..when in reality, it could be just a reflection of your blog. (I mean nothing personal by this, but why must raw milk consumers patronize dozens of different blogs…)

Don’t be discouraged that there aren’t many following you….there are many behind you, but they might not agree with the direction that you are taking.

Drinking raw milk, and patronizing a local raw milk farmer is the most aggressive thing that the raw milk community can do…. publicity stunts… Read more »

Shana Milkie
May 1, 2010 7:20 am

Is anyone else reminded of Dick Cheney and his infamous Energy Task Force secret meetings? Hmmm, Big Oil gets to develop national energy policy and Big Ag gets to develop food regulations, all without public scrutiny? That is outrageous.

Also outrageous is the position explicated in the FDA brief. My right to consume foods of my choice is "without merit?" There is no "generalized right to bodily and physical health?" Whoa there. We are talking about the United States of America, aren’t we?

My thanks go again the plaintiffs who have stepped forward on this suit. Your bravery will pave… Read more »

Bob "BubbaBozo" Hayles
May 1, 2010 7:47 am

Alyssa…your comment may or may not have made sense…I didn’t bother reading past the six-pack crack. I find folks resorting to ad hominums to be devoid of anything worth listening to.

And I don’t expect mass numbers…but TWO? And I’m not asking them to drive long distances…I’m asking them to pick up the damn phone and order what they SAY they want, and jungle me to pick it up for them. Well, excuse me for putting so much responsibility on folks. I’ll lighten up.Would you consumers be willing to sit there and WISH things were better,… Read more »

Steve Bemis
May 1, 2010 7:52 am

The FDA and their state minions in Massachusetts, Wisconsin and elsewhere are in the position today that the SEC was in during the summer of 2008. Their too-big-to-fail big-ag clients have one problem: they are too big. They are the dinosaurs and will fall just as Lehman Bros. Big is not the future. Small and local are. Raw milk is one of the harbingers of this future. We are watching the old order crumble. Quoting the Bible as justification for control of our food is no different than quoting it… Read more »

Bill Anderson
May 1, 2010 2:30 pm

Lykke —

I can describe in detail how fresh milk is safer than fermented milk.

Do you know which bacteria I am talking about?

damaged justice
May 1, 2010 5:07 pm

Bob – I think I mentioned it’s difficult to visit your blog and quickly see just newest posts since last visit? I’m no web expert, but usability goes a long way. As far as "civil disobedience" – like respect, I reserve civility for those who deserve it, and statists get none of either. I’ve been buying "vat pasteurized" milk to make kefir for my family, but have been looking for raw for over a year. I don’t care how many badges someone wears – if they want me to destroy my lawfully purchased property (dump out milk on the… Read more »

Steve Bemis
May 1, 2010 9:00 pm

The Boston Tea Party happened in the dark of night. I haven’t reread my history on it, but my dim recollection from grade school is that no-one ended up in the pokey. Cute. Smart. Certainly organized. In pre-technology Boston, little could have been more obvious to more people on a given morning than a tea-brown harbor. All in all, a well coordinated political statement.

Raw milk is not so neat. Yep, we have the Internet instead of a harbor. It’s our farmers, though, who are getting picked off in… Read more »

Dave Milano
May 1, 2010 9:14 pm

Id like to add a semi-dissenting opinion to this discussion, or perhaps more a refinement, by saying that there is no right to health. There is, however and unequivocally, a right to pursue health, which is perfectly encased in the right to pursue life, liberty, and happiness.

This is not merely semantics, for if we argue that health is a right, or for that matter life, liberty, or happiness, then it becomes governments job to PROVIDE those things. That sort of thinking, I would suggest, is what got us into this mess in the first place.

Governments job is to stay… Read more »

Bill Anderson
May 1, 2010 9:29 pm

In other words, Lykke, there is one organism that is more of a concern in fermented milk than in fresh. Do you know which organism I am talking about?

Bill Anderson
May 1, 2010 9:39 pm


I should add that this organism is a concern in pre-pastuerized milk (raw milk for pastuerization) as well.

Do you know which organism I am talking about?

Bill Anderson
May 1, 2010 9:42 pm


I do believe that people have a basic right to health. However, I do NOT believe that government provides rights, nor that people having a right to health implies that the government has to do something. It does mean that WE who care about human rights have to do something — continue fighting this struggle against the "sick" machine of the medical-industrial complex.

Dave Milano
May 1, 2010 11:56 pm

I must amend my comment above. We do indeed have a right to life and liberty, as God gives those to us. We do not have a right to happiness, as the founders well understood, which is why the critical words "the pursuit of" were placed before "happiness" in the Declaration of Independence.

Health is, again, like happiness, one of those things that cannot be guaranteed by government, so government was ordained only to protect our pursuit of it. That ordinance should not, and by constitutional dictum may not (our continual straying from constitutional dicta notwithstanding) include the mandating of… Read more »

Luc Chene
May 2, 2010 1:13 am

Despite the FDA’s wrong approach, in Canada we are doomed out of raw milk unless we have our own cows. In Quebec the question was raised at the governments legislative assembly as to the effect that tobacco was legal and far more dangerous than raw milk, but to no success in being allowed to purchase raw milk in the province.

Jon Carlson
May 2, 2010 1:48 am

The FDA has been a prime tool to wreck America’s health for 50 years starting with the poison fluoride in our water supplies. Effects thyroid health and increases cancer. The Nazis put it the water supplies of their death camps to keep the prisoners doctile. So we have the DOCTILE AMERICA.

View our research report:

The Nazis in The White House Story: Part 7
Three Generations of Nazi Spies Since 1930’s

Joanne Nelson
May 2, 2010 2:42 am

I don’t think "voting with our dollars" is going to cut it any longer. I would argue that voting with our dollars is what is causing all this mess, because these dollars are being diverted from the major food manufacturers. They see the writing on the wall, and they are trying to shut down the competition.

We need to do more. WE are the government We must exercise our power as a governmental body by holding politicians accountable and getting the states involved and separated from federal funding programs. In other words, we need to get politically involved.

Buying raw… Read more »

Mandy Wiseman
May 2, 2010 4:07 am

I am new to this website and I live in Canada. I would love to help legalize raw milk. As a Canadian I do not have access to raw milk at all.

If someone would like to contact me with information on how to help I will glady do what I can.

Thank you

Don Wittlinger
May 2, 2010 7:08 am
HMMM They that preside over this SYSTEM tell us that if we foolishly consume raw milk we may perhaps could possibily become ill. Looking at their track record why should we believe anything they say?

May 2, 2010 10:55 am

WI Raw Milk Consumer,

My question was somewhat rhetorical. Extreme statements like that (from either side) are untrue, and a pet peeve. I don’t know what organism you are referring to – why not just share the information with everybody?

Another question…what is the difference between a CSA and a buyer’s club? They seem like basically the same thing, or is buyer’s club a term used specifically for raw milk distribution?

Bill Anderson
May 2, 2010 10:58 am


The organism I was talking about is Staph Auerus. Staph (if it is present) is not a problem in fresh milk as long as the milk is kept cold. However, if the milk is incubated and the Staph reaches a critical population before the other (lactic) bacteria can drop the pH below 5.0, it can produce a toxin which does not go away — even though the Staph organism may perish because of the acidity of the milk (or cream, cheese, yogurt, etc…)

That bein said, it would take a pretty significant Staph population, AND a low population… Read more »

May 2, 2010 11:23 am

WI Raw Milk Consumer,

Thanks for the information. I think you point out well the complexity of the situation. Condiitions like temperature may inhibit the growth of one type of pathogen, but promote growth of another. Some species are more fragile than others, and probably require much higher intial contamination levels to overwhelm other factors like competing non-pathogenic species. There are so many variables, neither side should make blanket statements like "inherently safe" or "inherently dangerous."

Regarding the WI bill, I venture a guess that the exclusion of butter, cheese, etc. relates more to the definition of… Read more »

Bill Anderson
May 2, 2010 11:44 am

Again, Lykke, it would take a very large Staph population and very poor competition for the Staph to reach dangerous levels before it is excluded by natural acidity.

So we ask ourselves, what leads to high Staph levels in milk? What leads to low lactic acid bacteria levels in milk?

The answer is simple — animal udder health problems, and excessive sanitation chemical use. It all goes back to the animal husbandry practices. You can have the cleanest milking parlor on the planet, and a 20-point udder cleaning protocal (which, more than likely, will only make the Staph… Read more »

May 2, 2010 12:09 pm

Right, it’s all a vast conspiracy and raw milk is perfect. Surely, the unsanitary conditions documented in recent outbreaks and use of outsourced colostrum at one of them had nothing to do with the illnesses. I don’t think you are making any progress in getting public health off your back.

Bill Anderson
May 2, 2010 6:59 pm

Way to totally fail to address anything I said, Lykke. Can you say STRAWMAN?

The Wisconsin Dairy Industry is a $21 Billion industry. The raw milk bill was opposed by (among others) Farm Bureau, The Wisconsin Cheesemaker’s Association, the Vetrinary Association, and a whole host of corporate dairy industry interests. The WI Secretary of Agriculture consistantly stated IN PUBLIC that the $21 Billion dairy industry was placing immense pressure on DATCP to crackdown on raw milk and keep it from being legalized.

Again, FOOD SAFETY IS NOT THE REASON FOR THE CRACKDOWN. Dairy industry politics… Read more »

Truly Concerned
May 2, 2010 9:02 pm

Why does anyone even engage lykke. s(he) is a government robot with a memorized script.

Why bother? I have learned a lot from most of the posters here, lykke and cp(Melissa Herzog) excepted.

Bill Anderson
May 2, 2010 10:21 pm

Good point TP.

I’ve gathered from Lykke that s/he is a food safety regulator who suggests s/he wants to help make raw milk safer, but has shown above that s/he actually knows very little about the pathogenic organisms of concern in dairy products.

Bill Anderson
May 2, 2010 10:25 pm

CSA vs. Buyer’s Club? Don’t know, don’t care. Not a lawyer. What I do know is that people should have the right to obtain the foods of their choice produced in a manner they feel is ethical and healthy. (Certain people in the government clearly do not believe this, nor do you or Bill Marler apparently.)

If that means setting up private buyer’s clubs or cow shares to make it legal in the eyes of the state, so be it. Makes no difference to me. Frankly, I don’t care what the state thinks, because… Read more »

May 2, 2010 11:19 pm

WI Raw Milk Consumer,

I would concede that there may be parts of your raw milk-related regulations that are overly burdensome. Usually the specific regulations are not written until after the bill passes. That is an opportunity for industry and the public to comment and provide input. If you can’t finish a thought without using the word fascist at least once (I assume the all CAPS means that in real-life you are shouting it), do you really think the regulators are going to care one bit about your concerns? I’m not a farmer. Maybe shouting… Read more »

May 2, 2010 11:21 pm

p.s. I have no intention of playing name that pathogen games with you. I could smell that bait from a mile away.

Mark McAfee
May 2, 2010 11:36 pm


Two things:

First…show me any outbreaks or deaths related to a fermented raw milk product. I can not find any in the CDC database. If I have skipped over one I apologize…..but I do not think that there are any.

Secondly, agressive cultures like Kefir etc….eat up lactose in raw fresh milk and create a lowered PH with its lactic acids. This environment is less than appealing to most pathogens…

Dr. Ron Hull or Dr. Ted Beals could explain this in gruesome detail.

These are just two of the many reasons that fermented raw dairy products arguably are… Read more »

Truly Concerned
May 2, 2010 11:42 pm

Notice that lykke is labeling the food freedom movement as a fringe religion!

Lykke is tying to provoke and goad. Don’t respond. She isn’t worth the verbiage.

Civil rights workers were labeled as fringe, troublemakers and communists. If that’s the category that lykke put me in then I am proud of it.

By the way who cares what lykke, big ag, government and regulators think? They are willing to accept the many deaths and sicknesses that medication, surgery, processed food and commercially raised food causes. They (and you too lykke) have blood on your hands. Trying… Read more »

Concerned Person
May 3, 2010 12:05 am

Truly Concerned,

I have no idea why you think Im Melissa Herzog. A few weeks back, Brandon Peak commented on OPDC story when it was originally posted in December of 2006. Heres the link

Heres the way I see it. Chelsea Higholt is the only person obsessed with Melissa Herzog, so Truly Concerned must be Chelsea Higholt, the person that gave Lauren Herzog the raw milk that almost killed her.


Bill Anderson
May 3, 2010 3:40 am


I’m talking about the statutory legislation, not the administrative regulations. DATCP (on behalf of WI’s $21 Billion dairy industry) had our legislators remove butter, cream, and buttermilk from the legislative proposal — thus UNDERMINING food safety in raw milk.

There is no way in hell that DATCP is going to want to comprimise with any raw milk advocate on regulations. They have already created a committee that is totally stacked with big-wigs from the dairy industry, and only 2 farmers who actually are interested in raw milk (as well as a few CAFO-type farmers) and one consumer.

Clearly, by… Read more »

milk farmer
May 3, 2010 4:49 am

Indeed engaging Lykke brings us back to the same old crap….marginalizing those that are promoting raw milk and trying to cast those who are promoting it as liars. Indeed the straw man tactic does work, when you have an ignorant opposition. Raw milk proponents are not ignorant though, and her weak attempts are truly opaque.

There is a conspiracy against raw milk. It’s obvious…and the recent actions in Mass and Wisc prove that the health of the public is totally secondary to the ‘protection’ of Big Dairy. She cannot acknowledge that, because if she does than the health argument becomes… Read more »

Truly Concerned
May 3, 2010 6:03 am


As usual you see incorrectly.

Mark McAfee
May 3, 2010 11:14 am

Today I addressed about 100 people that were attending the first annual Real Food Symposium that was held in Pasadena at the Sheraton Hotel. What a great event…

After my Raw Milk "Share the Secret" presentation one of the attendees made a great observation….

If the FDA dismissal documents state that none of us have a right to health or to consume the foods of our choosing…then doesn’t the recent passage of the health care act by congress conflict with the FDA position.

It would appear that the recent passage of national health care insurance assures all americans to equal… Read more »

Truly Concerned
May 3, 2010 6:20 pm


I have never heard of Chelsea Higholt. I searched google and found this Looks like Melissa Herzog has been obsessed with Chelsea, the woman who was dating her ex-husband.

You’ve been outed Melissa (CP).

Neela Agrawal
May 4, 2010 12:32 am

Look, Soares probably did not hear from anyone who is opposed to raw milk other than DPH and FDA folks.

However many in the dairy community ARE concerned about what a problem with raw milk would do to the market for both raw and pasteurized milk. This is a legitimate concern, and the thought of multiple gallons of raw milk being tranported improperly should give anyone the heebeejeebees – especially raw milk producers.

So, the author makes a big deal about Soares not being able to name those concerned – valid criticism. Where is the author’s support for his allegations… Read more »

milk farmer
May 4, 2010 4:44 am


Your reading comprehension must be as obtuse as your fear is acute. "large dairy producers’ doesn’t mean DPH etc. Fact is since there has been no records kept, we don’t know who has been applying pressure to the ‘petty’ officials to take back what little freedom the residents of Mass have to obtain raw milk.

The Big Dairy doesn’t ‘own’ milk…although their monopolizing and controlling the market currently does give them a false sense of tyranny. These socialistic middlemen are gutting the domestic dairy industry, and forcing good, salt of the earth, family farms to go under. Defense of these… Read more »

Neela Agrawal
May 4, 2010 8:45 pm

I am well aware of the involvement of big dairy (Dean, Sweezer, etc) in the dairy market.

I know "large dairy" doesn’t mean DPH. What I was saying, is that DPH is more likely involved in the DAR decision rather than Big Dairy. Might want to check your own reading comprehension skills. (for those who are lost, this reference is in another post)

You are foolish not to see risks with improper transport of milk. Just because it hasn’t happened, doesn’t mean it will not. History and basic microbiology will both tell you there is risk with… Read more »

Cheryl Rounds
May 11, 2010 3:42 am

In 2007, three people died from drinking pasteurized milk in Massachusetts. In 2000, 93 cases of Salmonella Typhimurium were linked to pasteurized milk in Pennsylvania and New Jersey. A 2005 outbreak in a Colorado prison resulted in 200 cases of illness due to C. jejuni. In 2006, pasteurized milk was linked to gastrointestinal illness in 1,300 inmates and 14 employees at 11 California state prisons.
(quoted from

Lets see no illness caused by raw milk in Massachusetts since 1993 (and this incidence imvolved boy scouts drinking milk that was being produced to… Read more »