Stan Laurel and Oliver Hardy were masters of slapstick comedy as film stars in the 1930s and 1940s. Invariably, they’d wind up in some kind of jam, like locked outside a hospital in a rainstorm, and Hardy would complain to Laurel, “Well, here’s another nice mess you’ve gotten me into.” It became a catch phrase for many of their movies.
I find their famous line going through my mind a lot these days, except the movie we’re all starring in is much more a tense drama of the raging Covid-19 pandemic than a comedy. Our movie started with a seemingly localized outbreak in China late last year of a strange new coronavirus, causing a disease named Covid-19. Unfortunately, the localized outbreak quickly spread. One piece of good news was that scientists in many places developed a cheap easy-to-produce test kit, which was quickly turned out in quantify and used to quarantine sick people and contain the virus in Asian countries like South Korea, Taiwan, and Singapore, and then in Germany.
But most European countries, especially Italy and Spain, didn’t take the virus especially seriously, and it spread like wildfire. Italian professionals warned us in the U.S., but our president made light of it, suggesting that America would somehow be different from the rest of the world. “And we’re prepared, and we’re doing a great job with it,” he said on March 10. “And it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away.” Within a week of that statement, there were 170,000 known cases worldwide, and 6,500 deaths, according to a new CDC study on the pandemic’s rapid spread.
In the five weeks since our prophet predicted American deliverance, Covid-19 has literally exploded into a full-scale pandemic: The U.S., with less than 5% of the world’s population, has nearly one-third of the world’s, get this, 2.3 million cases. More than 30,000 Americans have died over the last five weeks, which is more than half those killed in the Vietnam war that dragged more than dozen years in the 1960s and 1970s, and there’s no end in sight.
Test kits that might have helped the U.S. isolate carriers of the virus, like in South Korea and Taiwan, never appeared in the quantities needed, apparently because the president didn’t want to know the full scope of the pandemic’s effect on the U.S. In a desperate effort to keep the virus from infecting millions, American governors enacted stay-at-home orders and recommendations. As restaurants and bars shut down and the travel and entertainment industries ground to a halt, America’s economy went into free fall, leading to more than 20 million unemployed, in a quick reenactment of the Great Depression of the 1930s.
And that’s the pivotal point the movie is at right now. What do we do? Lock everyone down and you kill the economy. Open things up, and you likely fan the pandemic and kill many thousands more. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t. “Well, here’s another nice mess you’ve gotten me into.”
In an old-fashioned Hollywood movie, a knight in shining armor would ride in with a magical cure, or vaccine protection. Failing that, the president would get over his aversion to bad numbers, show leadership by accepting some responsibility, and call on the nation to support him in this critical moment as we undertake a herculean effort to implement universal testing, and get this thing under control quickly so we can more safely unlock the economy.
He would assume at least some blame for the “nice mess” we’re in, and ask for the people’s help to get the testing mess fixed, per Peggy Noonan, former speech writer for the original Hollywood prez, Ronald Reagan, writing in The Wall Street Journal:
“Our federal government has to stop making empty and misleading claims about testing. Leave to history how much the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention and the Food and Drug Administration were allowed to screw up. Since then, White House announcements on testing have been all showbiz. Tests are always coming in 10 days, they’re in the pipeline and being shipped next week, we’re scaling up. Wednesday Mike Pence crowed at the daily White House briefing: ‘We have conducted and completed 3,324,000 tests across the nation.’ That’s barely 1% of the population three months into a crisis. That’s not an achievement, it’s a scandal. President Trump said, ‘We have the best tests in the world.’ If so, poor world.
“There’s a complete disconnect between the numbers with which Washington mesmerizes itself and facts on the ground…Testing is a national responsibility because a pandemic is a national problem. From the beginning it needed to be priority No. 1. It was never priority No. 1. If it had been, we’d have tests. The federal government’s lack of integrity has been destructive. No opening of America will be sustained until it’s got right.”
But this isn’t old-fashioned Hollywood. This is new-fangled social media hysteriaville, and the battle cry coming from the Internet is: enough of this stay-at-home nonsense and government overreach, let’s risk our lives to get the economy going, “herd immunity” or bust. Egging everyone on is the prez, who declared earlier in the week that he possessed dictatorial power to make it all happen: “When somebody’s president of the United States, the authority is total.”
By this weekend, he was tweeting in states with Democratic governors, calls for armed revolt (otherwise known as sedition when it comes from an elected official): “Liberate Minnesota!”, “Liberate Michigan!”, “Liberate Virginia and save your great Second Amendment. It is under siege!”
So now that everyone’s on the edge of their seat, we have no idea how this movie ends. An economic depression reminiscent of the 1930s? Mass illness a la plague days of the Middle Ages? Either way, it wouldn’t be a surprise ending if the president were to use that fake authority he says he has to declare martial law in October or early November, and cancel the presidential election. Then we really could complain about “the nice mess you’ve gotten me into.” Except complaining will probably get you arrested and tortured, or shot on sight.
David,
There is another ending that is possible. With his “cavalier, know it all cocky attitude” he could very well end up on one of his newly mass produced Ford or GM Ventilators It’s all a hoax until you get really sick or die. Then you reconsider your math and your attitude.
The one thing that I do not understand is why there is not more chatter about why America is the home of the compromised immune system. That’s the real problem.
There is a total disconnect from our own science that clearly says that 70-80% of our immune systems are in the gut micro biome and related epigenetics. A strong immune system is driven by whole food consumption.
This is the two trillion dollar question. Are we going to shut down our country every time a virus rears it’s virile head??
That is insane. How about building up our immune systems ( more adaptive and resilient ) to prevent this debacle to begin with? Let’s start pointing our finger at bad food and bad food choices, gut toxic chemicals, antibiotics, and the gut micro biome. The rest of the chatter is BS and a distraction. Almost like background noise and bright lights to distract us all as a looting is taking place.
Amen. I watch people checking out in the stores still within the rage of chaos this media virus has created, and people continue to bring shopping carts full of junk to purchase. They believe they can’t afford “the good stuff” or they’re simply just addicted to the bad stuff. Who knows? They need education, not distancing.
Your point is well taken, Mark. I’m just not sure you can inject any kind of constructive discussion about food and health into the current panicked situation. Once it subsides, perhaps. But even then, it’s going to be slow going, given all the interests at stake (doctors, drug companies, hospitals, which feed off “cures” and “treatments”). But who knows, possibly after the wreckage of this pandemic becomes clearer, there will be more openness to tending to immune function.
It is known that recipients of the influenza vaccine are more susceptible to this corona virus. No coincidence, I believe, that northern Italy had a recent flu vaccine campaign with a stronger “new and improved” vaccine for their older citizens and these older citizens bore the brunt of the current corona fiasco(in Italy and the US). It is also known that the PCR test which so many beg the gov’t for is pretty much useless. It doesn’t measure viral load and can not accurately distinguish Covid19 from any corona virus. Wishing for the newer antibody tests is also useless as it can’t tell you if you are currently infected and shedding or if you are just carrying the anti-bodies. The supposedly asymptomatic people could actually just NOT be infected with Covid19 because of these unreliable tests. But they increase the statistics calling them asymptomatic rather than NOT sick and make for even greater fear mongering by the media, which is working overtime to create hysteria. This is Tony Fauci’s wet dream–to inflict another rushed-to-release, poorly tested vaccine upon the public. It’s a rerun of the 2009 swine flu fraud where he was the lead driver to getting out another bad vaccine that caused substantial harm to some of the recipients. His ties to Big Pharma make him a questionable advisor to the president. The governor of my own state said this won’t be over until we have a vaccine. He can take his vaccine and insert it someplace very dark. I suggest people start writing their representatives NOW to tell them you do NOT want mandatory vaccinations for this virus because they are definitely working on just that.
Was the COVID-19 Test Meant to Detect a Virus?
by Celia Farber
April 7, 2020
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/07/was-the-covid-19-test-meant-to-detect-a-virus/
“Flaws in Coronavirus Pandemic Theory”
https://theinfectiousmyth.com/book/CoronavirusPanic.pdf
If one agrees to submit their DNA to this coronavirus test, they might want to consider the overall wisdom and ethical implication of doing so.
Highlights with respect to noted coronavirus test:
The virus has not been purified or visualized with an electron microscope
PCR (the test) does not test for viruses, it tests for fragments of nucleic acids
The inventor of the test stated that it should not be used for diagnosis because it is non-binary and can be made to be “positive” with increasing amplification rounds
When healthy people are screened, they will likely be found to be positive (recently affirmed by a Stanford study) because this fragment represents a common exosome rather than a pathogen
There are grave dangers associated with false positives and recommended treatments
Conclusions:
“The coronavirus panic is just that, an irrational panic, based on an unproven RNA test, that has never been connected to a virus. And which won’t be connected to a virus unless the virus is purified. Furthermore, even if the test can detect a novel virus the presence of a virus is not proof that it is the cause of the severe symptoms that some people who test positive experience (but not all who test positive). Finally, even if the test can detect a virus, and it is dangerous, we do not know what the rate of false positives is. And even a 1% false positive rate could produce 100,000 false positive results just in a city the size of Wuhan and could mean that a significant fraction of the positive test results being found are false positives. The use of powerful drugs because doctors are convinced that they have a particularly potent virus on their hands, especially in older people, with pre-existing health conditions, is likely to lead to many deaths. As with SARS. There is very little science happening. There is a rush to explain everything that is happening in a way that does not question the viral paradigm, does not question the meaningfulness of test results, and that promotes the use of untested antiviral drugs. And, given enough time there will be a vaccine developed and, for some of the traumatized countries, it may become mandatory, even if developed after the epidemic has disappeared, so that proving that it reduces the risk of developing a positive test will be impossible.”
Thanks Ken! Great paper. Very eye-opening as is the other link posted by Joseph.
Seems our centralised planner overlords made many errors. A CDC lab contamination error in February led to our test kit delay. https://www.cnbc.com/2020/04/18/coronavirus-tests-delayed-by-covid-19-contamination-at-cdc-lab.html
While Mark’s suggestion of addressing ‘bad food choices’ is spiritual and correct in the long term, it is not of much use for the current short term emergency scenario. We have already had too many federal planners that don’t plan. We are each individually forced to go where no one dare go . How are each of us preparing for the pandemic ? How are each of us preparing for an infection in the family or among coworkers ?
The virus or whatever ”it’ is , is contagious and has a high replication rate in its infected hosts, particularly those with already compromised immune systems . This compromise has occurred already over many years or decades of wrong living and eating habits.
We can definitely find some clues in the literature. Dentists have successfully and inexpensively and safely used Iodine and Chlorine Dioxide to disinfect for coronaviruses, for over 50 years, in the oral cavities of their patients. And there are dozens of studies to support this statement. A good starting point is this article :
https://www.oralhealthgroup.com/features/molecular-iodine-could-this-be-a-game-changer-for-dentistry/
The authors say that coronavirus pathogens can be inactivated in 30 seconds in the mouth. He gives a ppm for the proprietary brand solution he is using for Iodine (without specifying the amount of iodine in the solution that company is using). You will not in figure 4 the author says that iodine has very low toxicity and chlorine dioxide has low toxicity.
But if you want more objective lab studies for what ppm of Iodine and/or Chlorine Dioxide are required to deactivate there are many . In fact those exact studies were done after the 2003 SARS coronavirus much smaller pandemic. I believe they test different amounts of iodine i.e 20-40mg/ l on the virus and see how much of the virus is deactivated after 30 minutes.
Here is one study that looks at different forms of iodine and their effects on SARS coronavirus. https://www.karger.com/Article/FullText/89211
The question really is are their forms of iodine or amounts of iodine that can be orally ingested ? While i can not go into detail here, evidently iodine solution is sold in 2% to 5% strength in health food stores and compounding pharmacies for oral consumption. It is called Lugol’s Iodine solution. Whereas Povidone iodine is only used for external applications like cuts and skin infections.
In this study they look at concentrations of chlorine dioxide required to effect 100% deactivation of SARS coronavirus. Again amounts of 40mg/ L were able to 100% deactivate the pathogen in vitro in under one hour. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7112909/
Lastly , both chlorine dioxide and Iodine are on the EPA and CDC list of approved substances that can be used to purify water i.e for campers and hikers in the woods or other back country or military applications. https://www.epa.gov/pesticide-registration/guidance-disinfectant-products-intended-treat-drinking-water
https://www.cdc.gov/healthywater/pdf/drinking/Backcountry_Water_Treatment.pdf
Unlike Iodine , The CDC and FDA have engaged a brutal witch hunt against anyone suggesting that Chlorine Dioxide can be ingested internally for a short period of time for any constructive purpose other than external water purification (even if that water is intended for human consumption ) . .
https://sputniknews.com/us/202004181079012489-Covid-church-cure-fake/
However one is allowed to talk about using it to purify water for cabin or camping use. And dilute concentrations are available in small quantities (as a 2 part activator kit) and freely sold at camping supply shops around the country .
At the same time, the CDC and FDA refused to do studies on Chlorine Dioxide for oral use , dozens of countries and foreign universities have done those studies and are using successfully it on their local populace. By coincidence , both Chlorine Dioxide and Iodine cost only pennies to produce, and can not be patented as such. In short , there is absolutely no financial incentive to do further studies on them in the US or Canada, the lands of pharmacy giants and corporate chemical farming. Iodine has been used for over a hundred years for all kinds of ailments but is no longer in vogue as “symptoms suppression-only based ” medicine with proprietary allopathic medicines took over in the 1930s.
To conclude, this is not a comprehensive list of OTC substances with disinfectant properties but a good starting point. Something you will NEVER find in the mainstream fear-based one-sided media narrative. Other areas of investigation include aromatherapeutics, herbs, vitamin therapy, ozone, and Per oxide (see the work of Dr. Brownstein et al).
Repeatedly, I have seen the warnings from CDC and the medical community that there is no way to build immunity through food.
They are kidding the entire point. It’s the immune system that is built. Not exact immunity.
A micro biome that contains biodiversity and Whole Foods becomes resilient and adaptive
Fear and suppression of information especially epigenetics, genomics, and nutrition including Whole Foods use of vitamins A, D, C and Iodine.
This suppression of information continues the false paradigm of eating immune system suppressing garbage and SAD food.
What we have are ignorant people in charge. The question is whether ignorance is the sole excuse or whether there is a greater agenda.
At the end of his life, Pasteur is said to have recognized the importance of what Bernard had been trying to tell him, remarking, “Bernard avait raison. Le germ n’est rien, c’est le terrain qui est tout.” (Bernard was right. The germ is nothing, it’s the soil that is everything.) https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/04/no_author/coronavirus-crisis-reopens-150-year-old-controversy/
“Stanford Team Finds Evidence COVID-19 Mortality Rate Is As Low as .2% (17 Times Lower Than WHO’s Estimate)”
https://www.greenmedinfo.com/blog/stanford-team-finds-evidence-covid-19-mortality-rate-low-2-17-times-lower-whos-esta?fbclid=IwAR3N-9w-Hk6Pyr_pf0a1J1NjWCrs1wXHlDqxiUlXXDXNzSwHBnGAz8U7nnY
“A recent article published in the Wall Street Journal titled, “New Data Suggest the Coronavirus Isn’t as Deadly as We Thought,” confirms what I, and many who have been questioning the mainstream narrative on COVID have been saying since the lockdowns began: fatality statistics have been dramatically over-inflated due to the vast submerged iceberg of asymptomatic or mild cases that were never accounted for within the official statistics used as justification to shut down the entire country.”
Part of the problem with the asymptomatic or mild cases is that public health has been prevented from tabulating those by the shortage/absence of test kits. There’s all kinds of finger pointing going on about the absence of enough tests, but it seems to come down to a desire from the top of the U.S. government to not have the complete data. Yes, the data might well show a lower mortality rate, but it would also show the much wider presence of the coronavirus than has been assumed (and hoped). Even more important, it would allow for tracking of those with the virus, and reality-based quarantining. For some reason, our top people seem not to want this data.
This from Dr. David Brownstein, a holistic MD, writing in March on his blog: “Coronavirus VIII: Why Does S. Korea Have Lower Death Rate Compared to US?
“South Korea was one of the first countries affected by Coronavirus after China. Their first case occurred January 20, 2020. The number of cases remained low until February 18 when the country reported 31 new cases. A few days later hundreds more were confirmed and continued to rise. At that time, S. Korea had the highest number of COVID-19 patients outside of China. (1) By February 27, with a few hundred cases of COVID-19 reported, S. Korea had tested over 66,000 people while the US had tested just 445. (2)
“How did this not spiral out of control like it has in the US? In later January, just after the first case, S. Korea procured a massive amount of tests. When the infection spread in February, S. Korean health agencies were quickly mobilized to test tens of thousands of exposed Koreans. In fact, they tested tens of thousands of patients and properly instituted quarantining and treatment.
“That is a perfect example of how a national health service is supposed to function. We—especially the CDC–have a lot to learn from the Korean health agencies. How did this fare for the Korean citizens?
“In the March 13, 2020 Korean Times it is reported that there are 7,869 cases of COVID-19. How many have died? Sixty-six people, mostly elderly patients with underlying illnesses have died so far. That means the death rate in Korea is 0.8% (66/7,869). This is still higher than the death rate for the flu in the US which is approximately 0.1%. However, this number is much lower than the 3-4% promoted by the media.
“At present, the US has 1,716 cases and 41 deaths have occurred. That is a death rate of 2.3% (41/1716). It is important to keep in mind that the death rate is currently inflated due to the lack of COVID-19 testing kits. Those most likely to be tested are the sick and dying. Patients who convalesce at home with cold and flu-like symptoms will generally not be tested. Counting them would dramatically lower the death rate.
“It simply is impossible to say how many Americans have COVID-19. In fact, we will never know the true number. I have seen dozens of patients over the past month who could have it. Why didn’t I test them? Ask the fools at the CDC. They were late to the testing game, developed a faulty test kit and inhibited private industry from manufacturing accurate tests. I received the proper testing items at my office late afternoon Wednesday March 11, 2020—nearly three months after the first reports came out of China and well into the panicked atmosphere surrounding COVID-19. These test kits only became available after the CDC was forced to open testing to private labs.”
https://www.drbrownstein.com/coronavirus-viii:-why-does-s.-korea-have-lower-death-rate-compared-to-us/
This is an odd assumption on your part. I would point to the US outsourcing manufacturing to Asia as the cause. The US just does not have the capability anymore to react in real time. We have subsidized (at the expense of everything else) our financial and military sectors. We have also turned our medical care system into a rape and pillage machine. Americans infatuation with its “leaders” providing mass solutions for a county of 300 plus million is probably another problem. A good question to ask is what exactly was the planned response for a pandemic in the USA? Was there ever one? It sure doesn’t look like it. My understanding it that South Korea went through a similar problem with the MERS virus in 2015. After making a mess of that (including mass quarantines) their politicians developed a plan and it has gone a lot better this time around. Is the USA capable of that type of self reflection? Probably not. We will probably be too busy scapegoating and finger pointing to actually get our shit together. That is where I’d bet my money. .
David.
We dare not put to much emphasis on a test for a virus that has not been purified or visualized with an electron microscope” … Unlike influenza A and B there is no specific test available for Covid-19.
The PCR process currently being used to test for Covid-19 is searching for “specific genetic material that is unique to the coronavirus genome”… a genome that consists of many corona viruses that may or may not include Covid-19. As the inventor of the PCR proceedure, American biochemist Kary Mullis pointed out PCR should not be used for diagnosis because it is “non-binary” and can be made to be “positive” with increasing amplification rounds. As I understand it the level of amplification used can vary from lab to lab and country to country.
Wearing a Mask merely fuels this current irrational fear driven hysteria… Virologist Dr. Judy Mikovits sums it up well…
“The masks on walks outside and while driving in your car is mind blowing to me. Do you not know how unhealthy it is to keep inhaling your carbon dioxide and restricting proper oxygen flow? I honestly cannot believe how non-logical we have become! We as a society seem to just listen to (perceived) authority without question. I don’t see a whole lot of critical thought happening here, I’m sorry to say “Why I opt NOT to wear a mask. Well, let me break it down for you. The body requires AMPLE amounts of oxygen for optimal immune health. Especially during a so-called “pandemic”. Proper oxygenation of your cells and blood is ESSENTIAL for the body to function as it needs to in order to fight off any illness.
Masks will hamper oxygen intake. Unless you are working in a hospital setting, it is NOT necessary. But go ahead and hold onto to your security blanket if it makes you feel better. I do not listen to the government when it tries to instruct me on how to maintain health, nor do I trust their ‘stats” (which we know are based on unconfirmed numbers).
You want to be healthy, then make sure to apply it to all aspects of your life. Stop smoking, change your diet, stop consuming alcohol, turn off your wifi and cell phone, stop getting injected with neurotoxins, stop taking toxic medications, stop using so many chemicals in your everyday life, practice proper hygiene (WASH YOUR HANDS).
Most importantly, go outside and BREATHE DEEPLY, get some sun, drink plenty of (filtered) water, sleep well and learn to LISTEN to your body.”
If you could pick one ticker, what would it be?
https://www.thelunaticfarmer.com/blog/4/20/2020/tickers-to-get-action
Although the title of the following article is misleading (How is the COVID-19 Virus Detected using Real Time RT-PCR?), it is worth taking the time to read…
https://www.iaea.org/newscenter/news/how-is-the-covid-19-virus-detected-using-real-time-rt-pcr
“In order for a virus like the coronavirus to be detected early in the body using real time RT-PCR, scientists need to convert the RNA to DNA. This is a process called ‘reverse transcription’. They do this because only DNA can be copied — or amplified — which is a key part of the real time RT-PCR process for detecting viruses.”
The term “reverse transcription” got my attention in the above two sentences due to the fact that retroviruses that virtually contaminate all vaccine preparation have this natural ability outside of laboratory intervention to reverse transcribe themselves into the host that they invade… “Retro” referring to an enzyme called reverse transcriptase that the virus carries and that allows it to assimilate and conceal itself genetically within the cell structure of the host. Indeed, and as I was taught a retrovirus once established in the host is there for life… People who are not concerned about retroviruses contaminating vaccines should be due to their ability to cause mutation that can lead to cancers such as leukemia and immune disruption such as AIDS etc. In fact some of these retroviruses are leukemia type viruses such as Avian Leucosis Virus and Bovine Leukemia Viruse.
Don’t really understand how this works but maybe someone can explain: As I’ve read that the current testing means looking for antibodies in your system, and vaccines work by injecting a small amount of the virus so that your defense mechanism will create antibodies in response and become immune. Doesn’t that mean anyone vaccinated would test positive? No comprendo.
“Feeding the World” Without Industrial Agriculture
“American Farmers Must Feed the World!” This popular myth is perpetuated by the “agricultural establishment”
https://www.johnikerd.com/post/feeding-the-world-without-industrial-agriculture?postId=5ea1e798ab092300170e3e36
It’s amazing how fear rather than common sense controls our lives… Anyone that thinks that they can constructively control a virus using current methods such as restricting movement, and injecting toxic vaccines into the body is living a life based on a false paradigm…
“Instead of Coronavirus, the Hunger Will Kill Us.’ A Global Food Crisis Looms”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/22/world/africa/coronavirus-hunger-crisis.html?fbclid=IwAR2c7rQUdkPp-RwXU6LlSDP2MtzyOdjGDvfHeCLuCBZyJeWx5V5RDw1mMSo
Here’s a research study done on Jan.31 2020 by Fabian M Dayrit Ph.D. and Mary T. Newport M.D. on the effect virgin coconut oil has on the corona virus. https://www.icp.org.ph/2020/01/the-potential-of-coconut-oil-and-its-derivatives-as-effective-and-safe-antiviral-agents-against-the-novel-coronavirus-ncov-2019/
Ken,
Madness. It’s the ultimate Get Big or Get Out failure. Good old Earl Butz in 1970 started the madness. Now it has undergone its “stress test” It has failed miserably.
“Get Big” means “Get Obese” Get Out”means”Die”.
Wow. Watching this all and thriving in the local raw milk reality is surreal.
Finally, two doctors in Kern County California who are getting some air time on mainstream media and sharing a different and rational opinion to the current irrational fear driven narrative. They say sheltering in place “is doing more harm than good”. Doctors Dan Erickson and Artin Massihi of Accelerated Urgent Care refuse to wear masks outside. They say the longer people stay inside, the more their immune system drops.
They’re calling for Kern County to reopen immediately.
https://www.kget.com/health/coronavirus/doctors-provide-differing-opinion-on-shelter-in-place-order/?fbclid=IwAR1qTQII_qlYS1n5WTeuZn2yQm7qjSARlWK0CG9RKO8iGCkgryUclgyAg8M
Computer modeling
https://lockdownsceptics.org/carnage-by-computer-the-blackboard-economics-of-the-2001-foot-and-mouth-epidemic/
Ikerd on systemic change
https://www.johnikerd.com/post/covid-19-crises-reveals-need-for-systemic-change?postId=5ea350a15dee5e0017433800
Watson,
This one is for you.
Trump now recommends that to treat CV 19, you should try UV radiation inside your body…. he also suggests injection of chlorine. To clean out and sanitize your body. He said this on national TV at the presidential podium.
It’s no wonder our country is in a mess. There are no adults in the White House. The CDC doctors could not even muster enough courage to correct this fatal advice.
Watson…. I have been correct all along. Trump is a Psychological mess, sociopath and malignant narcissist. He failed science in high school. He does not read. He takes his advice from FOX news and conspiracy theory believers.
God help us all.
au contraire Mr McAffee > the ‘Psychological Mess’ in this instance, is = your “Mister Hyde” persona. Now 4 years since first manifested on this forum, the pattern is : at this phase of the moon, you depart the moorings of common sense and launch into the twilight zone of IL-logic
were you to review what PRESIDENT Trump actually said – in context – you’d be forced to admit that his throw-away remark was sarcasm … toying with press gallery types who torment him daily. The prime symptom of the Emotional Plague, is : IN-ability to appreciate humor / miserable resentment against anyone else having fun. His constituency got the joke… folks who will be returning him to office this coming November.
stick to your milk biz. Your political commentary is at the level of a stunted adolescent.
and as for the “God” bit … you still haven’t replied to my query : Name that god? which one is it that you serve? The Rock on which the Republic was founded, Jesus Christ?
Or is yours just the generic brand one-size-fitz-all, lowest-common-denominator of the mixed multitude ?
I think I have Trump figured out. He is Jim Jones and this is his final act suggesting that we all drink the “pink chlorine” Trump has been hypnotizing America and has 35% of the population in a trance.
Mark,
That statement by Trump, which appeared to be more of a questioning remark directed at someone in the background, is indicative of the lunacy that has transpired ever since the advent of the germ theory. It is amazing to what invasive and toxic lengths the medical profession will go in order to reign over the microbe, and it is equally amazing that human beings would agree to be subjected to such an insidious bag of tricks! And you know what, it hasn’t changed much since then other then the fact that the mainstream medicines’ interventions have become more sophisticated yet equally and in many cases more toxic and invasive… Tell me Mark, is Trumps “query” any worse then politicians who willfully mandate the injection of toxic viral and protein antigens, preservatives, solvent detergents, disinfectants, antibiotics, stabilizers and heavy metal neurotoxins just to name a few? Is it any worse then politicians who endorse and fund research for, the use of highly toxic chemotherapy chemicals that virtually decimate the body’s overall physiology; namely, the gut and immune system? Is it any worse then politicians who advocate the adulteration of raw milk and ban its sale to the public?
I think you need to step back and consider the whole picture rather then engage in this obsessive and unhealthy preoccupation with Donald Trump…
Before using that canard – about Jim Jones manipulating his followers to ‘drink the KoolAid” – you ought to educate thyself. In fact : the coroner’s report shows that most of the victims in Jonestown were shot. The body of Congressman Ryan had 12 bullet wounds. So you are the one bamboozled by the CIA’s coverstory for its foul deeds.
“Trance”? You mean like the CIA experiments on prisoners, to determine if they could be controlled with drugs so as to be used as robotic patsies? All provable out of what’s on public record, if you were to do your own homework, rather than mindlessly peddle that made-for-media myth
comic relief is where you find it! …. After criticizing the bona fides of the Centres for Disease Control for as long as you’ve been on this forum, all of a sudden you throw in your lot with those vaxxination serpents – headed by archfiend Dr Fauci!
all politics is local. for more and better information re the Scam-demic, view this video of what 2 doctors in Kern County ( your neighbourhood ) have learned from their front=line experience
https://www.lifesitenews.com/blogs/two-california-emergency-room-covid-doctors-may-start-a-revolution-with-calm-science-data-based-press-conference-questioning-of-extreme-measures?utm_source=LifeSiteNews.com&utm_campaign=d64f950ee8-Daily%2520Headlines%2520-%2520U.S._COPY_746&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_12387f0e3e-d64f950ee8-401455585
“NJ Driver Wearing N95 Mask Passes Out, Crashes Due To Lack Of Oxygen, Police Say”
https://dailyvoice.com/new-jersey/essex/police-fire/nj-driver-wearing-n95-mask-passes-out-crashes-due-to-lack-of-oxygen-police-say/787079/
I agree with the docs from kings county. Totally rational and driven by data.
As I stated at the onset of this foolishness… “Fear has proven to be one of humanities most crippling emotions in that it has served to undermine liberty more then anything else in this world… and true to form, the powers that be have for centuries played on that emotion in order to raise the level of hysteria… in essence, weaponizing fear and using it as a tool to control, manipulate and coerce the public into submission like the obedient flock of sheep they expect them to be”.
“The Seven-Step Path from Pandemic to Totalitarianism”
https://off-guardian.org/2020/04/23/the-seven-step-path-from-pandemic-to-totalitarianism/?fbclid=IwAR2FPm-tnT4ngjf-2rPbwL041GFrioNrDdxPW9kAQ9g6XAwQf5zmDMONcms
A wise man only seeks the truth even in the sewage of life’s discourse . Why dont we have an article on intravenous therapies that have legitimately been used for 60 years in a hundred countries ? This is something sorely lacking in the one-sided media diatribe and attacks on trump.
Dr.brownstein has been using IV per oxide and IV ascorbic acid. While per oxide disinfects EVERYTHING , ascorbic acid megadosing is said to stop the horrific cytokines storms that cause instant cardiac arrest , sudden death , and multiple organ failure in thousands of people right now? Dr. Brownstein says he has had no deaths and NO hospitalization s among his patients in 20 years of using those therapies. . I tend to believe him . Not because he says so but because I know and understand the science underlying per oxide IV or injections
DISCLAiMER: only a doctor or state licensed Heath care professional should perform these procedures . This is not intended as a replacement for medical advice.
But the real question is why aren’t these wonderful procedures being offered en masse right now in hospitals? What an amazing transformation that would represent!
Fauci will reply that we need 10 years of studies on pigs to determine if per oxide is a given remedy for covid19. Fauci must be fired immediately and charged with criminal negligence. It is no different than saying we need 10 more years of studies to show raw milk safety. Remember the CDC is a for profit corporation , they receive royalties from vaccine manufacturers. Fauci has a business interest in only promoting vaccines at the expense of safer, proven low cost methods that are quick and side effect free.
Raoul, I have seen comments from a number of observers that what Trump said about injecting cleaning fluid was misrepresented, that he really meant intravenous treatment of some kind. I wish that were true, that he would support some intriguing and established holistic methods of treating this illness. But his statement makes pretty clear that he wasn’t thinking about intravenous therapy. Here is what he said, from the White House transcript: “And then I see the disinfectant, where it knocks it out in a minute. One minute. And is there a way we can do something like that, by injection inside or almost a cleaning. Because you see it gets in the lungs and it does a tremendous number on the lungs. So it would be interesting to check that. So, that, you’re going to have to use medical doctors with. But it sounds — it sounds interesting to me.”
Intravenous treatment isn’t disinfectant. Nor is it a “one minute” miracle cure.
To your larger point, I don’t think you’d need ten years of study to begin to validate intravenous treatments. You allude to Dr. Brownstein, who has reported interesting results on his blog. It would be nice if he offered the results as a research paper or similar documentation. Maybe he is preparing to do that. I hope so, because with so much panic around Covid-19, I suspect there would be a lot of interest in his findings. But the way he describes what has happened, it is fairly vague (like, for example, determining how many of the 85 cases were actually tested).
https://www.drbrownstein.com/85-chm-covid-patients:-zero-hospitalizations-and-no-deaths/
Now that we have been markedly and rightly been informed of how dumb it is to be injecting “disinfectants”, it should become painfully clear of how dumb it is to be injecting vaccines into infants that contain mercury and formaldehyde-based disinfectants, including solvent detergents such as Triton X 100 etc. etc…
“The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants” — Albert Camus
https://www.ukcolumn.org/article/who-controls-british-government-response-covid19-part-one?fbclid=IwAR3atAsFp6Ey6fG_N1SKikt0UUdC5W6jzhK0_Hubp1Qdtqb4hpSzaaUqgE4
Sweden Shatters Lock-down Model As Curves Stay Flat, Population Found Exposed But Not Sick; German MD Calls Corona Lock-down Measures “Collective Suicide Based On A Spook”
https://uncoverdc.com/2020/04/23/sweden-shatters-lock-down-model-as-curves-stay-flat/
Sweden isn’t out of the woods, unfortunately. It has about 10% of Germany’s population, and about one-third Germany’s deaths (2,000+ versus about 6,000). Germany, which launched aggressive testing from the beginning, has about 10% of American deaths, with 25% of our population. You can check it all out at the Johns Hopkins worldwide data site.
https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/map.html
David, humanities inimical, supercilious attitude towards microbes has been its Achilles heel…
A virus’s role in relation to illness has everything to do with the environment it is presented with inside and outside of a living organism… namely, sunlight, temperature, humidity, day-length, diet, exercise and exposure to unnatural invasive immune disrupting substances such as toxic drugs, chemicals and vaccines etc. The environment is critical and it works hand in hand in establishing “natural” herd immunity… and the sooner that happens the better off we will be. As I see it, herd immunity is the only sure fired way to prevent and/or mitigate the likelihood of a “second wave”.
In comparing countries, it is imperative that a comprehensive approach be utilized rather than persist with this focus on controlling an elusive virus. Like a growing number of emergency doctors are stating… we need to consider the available data/facts rather than persists with models that are incorrect… that the metrics are telling a different story to the predicted models… that this novel corona virus is no more dangerous then influenza… and that the lockdowns are causing more harm then good and need to end.
This odd statement by Dr. Fauci speaks volumes to the current coronavirus fear driven narrative… “I hope we don’t have so many people infected that we actually have herd immunity.” Right, heaven forbid if herd immunity were to become establish and negate the need for a vaccine… My prediction is that they are pumping a shit load of resources into the development of a vaccine and they are going to be hellbent on using it.
I’ll give Fauci a little bit of the benefit of the doubt, that what he was trying to say was that the path to herd immunity in the U.S. would lead to huge numbers of deaths and serious illnesses, unacceptable numbers….way beyond the nearly 60,000 dead so far and 1 million illnesses. But maybe not. He’s been associated with vaccination as a given public health approach for so long, he just accepts it and encourages it as a matter of course.
As a CNBC article entitled, “White House advisor Fauci says coronavirus vaccine trial is on target and will be ‘ultimate game changer”… I doubt that your interpretation of Dr. Anthony Fauci’s statement was his sole intent … Consider these two paragraphs from the following article describing Fauci who funded “Gain of Function” research at the Wuhan lab via the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Disease (NIAID).
“Fauci’s studies alarmed scientists around the globe who complained, according to a December 2017 NY Times article, that “these researchers risk creating a monster germ that could escape the lab and seed a pandemic.” Dr. Marc Lipsitch of the Harvard School of Public Health’s Communicable Disease Center told the Times that Dr. Fauci’s NIAID experiments “have given us some modest scientific knowledge and done almost nothing to improve our preparedness for pandemic, and yet risked creating an accidental pandemic…
‘In October 2014, following a series of federal laboratory mishaps that narrowly missed releasing these deadly engineered viruses, President Obama ordered the halt to all federal funding for Fauci’s dangerous experiments. NIAID-funded gain of function research continued after the moratorium in a Wuhan-based laboratory. Congress needs to launch an investigation of NIAID’s mischief in China.”
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/u-s-governments-3-7-million-grant-to-wuhan-lab-at-center-of-coronavirus-outbreak/?fbclid=IwAR1HHsdWq7FX4NXQIT392Fy6z43SSGwBAfig8HvVYGwv-cmMYEUPuMtV-3A
This much I agree with Fauci, although a contradiction of his modus operandi in an attempt to control the spread of the virus… “You don’t make the timeline the virus makes the timeline”.
Tom Friedman of the NYTimes has an interesting analysis of the Swedish approach. He sees it as credible, but also questions whether and how it would work in the U.S.: “Asked about the American approach, he (Swedish public health chief) said that it “seems to me that the Americans let coronavirus go too far before any real strategy came into place.”
“Here’s the stone-cold truth: There are only different hellish ways to adapt to a pandemic and save both lives and livelihoods. I raise Sweden not because I think it has found the magic balance — it is way too soon to tell — but because I think we should be debating all the different ways and costs of acquiring immunity.”
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/28/opinion/coronavirus-sweden.html?action=click&module=Opinion&pgtype=Homepage