The Weston A. Price Foundation’s annual conference in Atlanta in three weeks was envisioned as something akin to the White House Rose Garden introduction of U.S. Supreme Court nominee Amy Coney Barrett a few weeks back–-no masks, people sitting close together, and lots of hugging by people celebrating their special privilege of not having to abide by prevailing protocols during a pandemic.
Alas, it all came crumbling apart in the last few days, even before it could potentially turn into the kind of superspreader event that the Rose Garden ceremony turned into, with 11 people, including the president, testing positive for Covid-19: Faced with a financial disaster from poor attendance, WAPF announced cancellation of the conference.
In a statement on its web site, WAPF seemed to blame the hotel hosting the event, the Atlanta Sheraton: “Several weeks ago, the Sheraton Hotel in Atlanta abruptly reneged on our contract because they had the opportunity for another contract that would fill the hotel until the end of the year. We have spent the last few weeks in negotiation with another Atlanta hotel, which initially promised a ‘no mask’ policy for our group, but then changed their mind and insisted that we wear masks whenever we were in contact with hotel employees, including food servers and audio-visual people. This meant while being served at the banquet and various other times, we would have to wear masks. They also required distancing. We do not know what action the hotel would take if people did not follow their requests. Rather than take the risk of unknown actions and agree to such an unworkable proposal, we have sadly decided to cancel the event.”
But an individual who had registered for the event said she believed the problem was more straightforward than uncooperative hotels: The event failed to attract enough attendees to make it financially viable. Apparently WAPF bailed last week, and word started leaking out as the hotel began sending out reservation cancellation notices to people who had signed up.
This individual was upset by the cancellation, and WAPF’s statement that it “will be contacting all those who have registered to determine how they would like to be reimbursed.” The clear inference is that WAPF will seek to simply apply fees for this conference to next year’s conference, when some or all may want cash returned. Another individual who was considering attending the conference told me that as much as she loves the conference, there was no way she was going to take the risk of going through airports and staying at a hotel to make it happen.
WAPF certainly had plenty of warning signs that trying to hold a conference of a few hundred people during a pandemic would be problematic. It says on its web site that it had previously been turned down for the conference by Portland, OR, its originally planned location, because of prohibitions there on large-group gatherings. Since last March, when the pandemic took hold in the U.S., companies and nonprofit organizations of all types have cancelled conferences or turned them into virtual events rather than risk superspreader problems of the sort experienced by a biotech company’s conference in Boston in late February. That conference, hosted by Biogen, was subsequently associated with tens of thousands of transmissions of the virus.
Some organizations have tried to re-schedule in-person events for these fall months, with the idea that they would abide by mask and social distancing protocols, but have given up as the pandemic persists, and seems now to be entering a second wave. One can certainly appreciate that WAPF would want to hold its conference in person, since locally produced farm-fresh food is such a big part of the event. But WAPF’s notion that it could somehow hold a protocol-free event and still enjoy its wonderful food seems another example of the denial and delusion I described in my post yesterday.
Can not find words. Speechless. Wow!!! All the ghosts of years past coming home.
I wish it would rain in California. Can not wait for November 4th.
seeing how Mr McAffee is given free rein to pollute this forum with Trump-Derangement-vitriol, especially, rants about ‘white supremacy’ the article at this URL may be the turning-point to recovery of sanity
https://www.amren.com/blog/2020/10/the-12-steps-to-cure-yourself-of-whiteness/
There is an organization called Recovery from White Conditioning that will lead you out of the affliction of being white. Its method is based on the 12 steps of Alcoholics Anonymous that help people fight addiction. In the very first sentence that describes the program, it says it had “guidance from BIPOC consultants,” so you know it’s the real thing. (In case you’re not up to date, BIPOC stands for Black, Indigenous, People of Color.) But be warned: You’ll never be cured; recovering from being white is “a lifelong journey.” And whites better be prepared to upend everything their lives as they “fashion revolutionary selves, revolutionary lives, revolutionary relationships.”
but be careful! Marky Malarky …. Brooklyn college educator sez “Math is white supremacist patriarchy”. When you’re finished the program, you may not understand that 2 + 2 = 4
David,
The use of the word “superspreader” is a typical example of how an unhealthy obsessive compulsive disorder such as germaphobia is now being normalized on a global scale. There are a good many people who cannot wear a mask for various reasons and so far, in some countries, their right not to wear a mask is more or less respected, but how long will that continue in a world where a narrowminded fear of microbes dictates this proclaimed “new normal”???
My cheap Chinese paper mask purchased at Chinese harbor freight store says right on the pack ” not for medical use” as is true for 99.9% of the masks being worn. We continue the Kabuki theater in order to walk into a store to buy groceries. You can’t stop a virus from spreading to a sick population with rags and tissue paper. As Bechamp said, ” Its the terrain “. Pasteur agreed on his deathbed. Ya can’t sterilize the world or hide from what is EVERYWHERE. I’ve been to multiple group events this summer. I came home as healthy as when I walked in.
My cheap paper mask acquired from Harbor Freight states right on the package, “not for medical use”, but it gets me into my grocery store. It will not filter out any airborne virus, nor will the variety of cloth masks also strapped across many a face. I place my trust in my immune system, not masks or lockdowns. Viruses are everywhere, all the time.
Exactly… you should see some of the ridiculous homemade masks that are being worn… More power to those who are manufacturing them and making a profit. Not on me however… I still manage to get into retail outlets with little to no challenge.
“without wearing a mask” that is…
The reason people are asked to wear masks is NOT to protect them, but to help protect the people around you. You may be asymptomatic, and spreading it to others unaware.
My husband has 4th stage cancer and heart failure, and others have immune issues. While the masks are not a silver bullet, masks and social distancing are helpful.
So happy for you that your immune system is good, but think of the others whose health problems you may effect. Thanks.
the decision of Arbitrator Kaplan in the Ontario Nurses dispute [ 2015 ] re compelling masks, is the last word on the topic … that is, if you care about science.
After hearing days of testimony from experts on both sides of the issue, the tribunal ruled that what had been presented was inconclusive. Kaplan declared that it was “unreasonable” to compel nurses to wear masks AND THAT’S IN A HOSPITAL SETTING !!
Got that?
There is no EVIDENCE that masks make a whit of difference regarding transmission of a virus, in what we used to call “the real world” in which those of us not entrained in the mass psychosis of the ScamDemic, live and move and have our being
the practical effect of compulsory masking is to instill paranoia
https://unherd.com/2020/10/covid-experts-there-is-another-way/?pt Time to stop the destructive lock downs.
Good, God, I am first in line for maintaining a healthy immune system, I do not get regular flu shots and won’t this year, but living in NYC, I am still drinking my raw milk here, I know people who have died and was used to the ambulances going all night long and know many who have gotten it and some nearly died. And Yes I wear an organic cotton mask when out and wash my hands and social distance and only go to Trader Joes and do acting on Zoom. I have a friend in NJ who tells me the horror tales of her neighbor who is an ICU nurse. Why the heck take a chance and smugly think you are immune at all times? I would bet some of you end up being spreaders yourself. Thanks for your consideration.
Very well stated, Charmcat. Thank you.
Agreed!
Outside of a self-contained breathing apparatus masks will not prevent the spread of an airborne virus in either direction… All it will do is potentially redirect the viruses direction of travel and create an unhealthy situation for the wearer via the recirculation of exhaled impurities. I spoke to an individual a couple of weeks ago who apart from lunch breaks is being forced, to wear a mask throughout his 8 hr shift… He told me that he has as a result developed ongoing headaches, a terrible bad breath and has had to brush his teeth several times a day including the need to use an antiseptic mouth wash. Hmmm, and I suppose this is healthy way to nurture immunity???
I don’t doubt people were being carted off to the hospitals….as they always are. But what has never changed is that the majority have had co-morbidities — obesity, polypharmacy, heart ailments, cancer, diabetess.
America is a very sick nation and was prior to the mention of Covid 19. Your cotton mask won’t protect you from airborne viruses, organic or not. Case count based on a faulty PCR test developed without ever isolating the virus. How the he’ll can you have a test for something you haven’t even isolated? OR develop a vaccine?? Death count includes pneumonia and influenza which may or may not be related to Covid.
It seems that Mr. Gumpert needs to broaden his reading list:
https://blog.nomorefakenews.com/2020/10/19/dr-tom-cowan-explores-the-covid-virus-invented-out-of-sheer-nonsense/
Healthy people don’t need to be afraid of viruses, and it’s perfectly fine for healthy people to hold a conference or other large event. These lockdown and social-distancing and mask-wearing rules were invented by the same sociopaths who organize raids on raw milk farmers.
A few weeks ago, at my cowshare, we had a potluck on the farm, and over 50 people came. Nobody was afraid of each other, people shook hands, hugged, sat right next to each other. You know what? Nobody got sick. You know why? Because they’re all healthy, and have properly functioning immune systems.
In the city, I don’t comply with the mask rules. Ever. If I get asked “where’s your mask?” or “why aren’t you wearing a mask?”, I say “I don’t need a mask because I’m not sick, and because I have a good immune system”. I’ve only been kicked out of one store. I told the employee who kicked me out that he has been brainwashed by some sick sociopaths, and that I will take my business to his competitor.
Michael, You are very rude,unkind and quite inconsiderate!!
Charmcat, very well stated indeed. As a WAPF chapter leader I am very disappointed at their response to the virus and the espousing of conspiracy theories. It’s sad that the only way people learn is when they get the virus and end up on a ventilator. Four people I’ve known personally have died from the virus and many others have been very sick with a few who are now considered long haulers. As one scientist said “we already have a vaccine. It’s called a mask”. Even if you have a healthy immune system you wear the mask for those who may not be healthy.
There is no pandemic. The average age of death is greater than the average life span. In the “super spreader” event in the white house nobody was seriously ill. Most were “asymptomatic”. In fact over 80 percent of “cases” are “asymptomatic”. Back in planet sanity asymptomatic means it is not a case and the person is not ill. New York and New Jersey sent sick people into nursing homes and blew people’s lungs out with ventilators because the medical protocols but the safety of the staff over the treatment of the patients. They were literally murdering people. That is why their death rates were so high. There were Iatrogenic deaths. Cuomo and Murphy belong in a prison cell.
Goldhoarder, you are very,very confused.
“The World Health Organization in 2011 Warned Against a “Culture of Fear””???????
https://www.aier.org/article/the-world-health-organization-in-2011-warned-against-a-culture-of-fear/
“A fine feature of the decentralized network of anti-lockdown Twitter is that it turns up fantastic bits of research that would otherwise go unnoticed. In this case, Kulvinder Kaur MD, president of Concerned Ontario Doctors, discovered an extraordinarily truth-telling bulletin from the World Health Organization that was released July 2011. Its prescience is incredibly obvious. It appeared in times when what we might call the lockdown industry was gaining steam… What we see in this remarkable memo is identical to the ethos and import of the Great Barrington Declaration, which since its release has been treated like some kind of radical and controversial statement. Actually, the World Health Organization said the same thing in 2011 with much tougher language and more biting analytics, essentially warning that the world is being trolled by interest groups with a vested stake in panic over rational public health measures.”
WAPF gets lots of things right. Namely , sticking to what has been taught by Westin A Price in his book.
The organization is run by humans and humans are not always right. Ignoring the pandemic is a human mistake.
They are not ignoring it G… they are addressing the situation in the least destructive possible way. I think we should all be entitled to do likewise rather then prescribed from the top down…
As a chapter leader I am proud of The Weston Price Foundation for standing up and exposing this plandemic. Tom Cowan is a real hero, and I hope one day the world wakes up and understands this whole thing is 100% fake.
As I read all of these comments in their fantastic diversity.
The bottom line is this.
How do you live your life?
How do you serve humanity?
What is your legacy of purpose?
May love and peace be with all of you. ?❤️
Mark
Thank You Mark… May Love and Peace be with you and all your fellow Americans at this critical stage in your countries” history.
2 minute must see video on how to wear a mask…
https://thehighwire.com/videos/how-to-wear-your-mask-like-a-boss/?fbclid=IwAR1zXlKlozEO2gT8ikN8vGU7OR1YJi57rurq8TNqjLajKZesYI_m-cg1tnA
Well I am one of those tin foil hat wearers: there is no virus, no pandemic. CDC has no isolates, The RT-PCR is not a diagnostic test. This is the beginning of The Great Rest perpetrated by the World Economic Forum and a bunch of other evil-doers looking for cash and control over a believing, fearful, lazy, subservient public. I had registered to attend, I would not have if it meant mask wearing, anti-social distancing. I have no fear of airports or travel. Super spreader – ha! Like what the media tried to make of the Sturgis motorcycle rally of 400,000+ people. A joke, Nothing happened but bikers getting together for their annual fun. I am not saying Sally is being truthful, but until we know for sure, I’ll leave it as truth though I certainly am suspect Sheraton would do such a thing as cancel a contract for better money. I would look for better evidence before publicly stating, “But an individual who had registered for the event said she believed the problem was more straightforward than uncooperative hotels: The event failed to attract enough attendees to make it financially viable.” An individual believed. I would not have posted this speculation until I knew more.
Lynn, you make a good point about my reporting of the evidence about why the WAPF event was canceled. Journalistically, it was not well stated. Unfortunately, it reflects the constraints of reporting about WAPF. Sally Fallon Morell’s empire has shrunk considerably over the last few years, but within that empire, she wields an iron grip, which means no one within the empire wants to take the risks of crossing her. Suffice it to say that the person who provided me information is knowledgeable, but would only provide information if she could be certain her identity couldn’t be easily ascertained.
Thanks David for your reply. I have been to 8 WAPF conferences, my last in 2015 when I also canceled my membership. Just could not handle Sally’s rule, how she treated Kaayla, her defense of Wetzel, how she continued to slam the Paleo community. I knew of some of the lies and cover ups. Made me ill. I was going to Atlanta to hear RFK Jr and be with that wonderful WAPF community once again, so many good people involved.
“A Comprehensive Case Against Lockdowns: How Dr. Ari Joffe Changed His Mind”
https://www.aier.org/article/a-comprehensive-case-against-lockdowns-how-dr-ari-joffe-changed-his-mind/
“Dr. Ari R Joffe, MD, teaches in the Department of Pediatrics, Division of Critical Care Medicine, University of Alberta and Stollery Children’s Hospital, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada, and is a member of The Royal College of Physicians and Surgeons of Canada of Alberta, Edmonton, Alberta, Canada. He was also an advocate of lockdowns. Then he saw what they did in practice. Now he has documented the carnage in what might be the most comprehensive paper yet published.
‘It is called: COVID-19: Rethinking the Lockdown Groupthink”
Been thinking a lot about the Tribalism that is rampant in America.
Why don’t we all embrace science instead of. Conspiracy theories and live free or die ethos.
A mask is a tool to reduce viral load. It does not eliminate it. It is simply one tool among many to reduce viral load.
Social distance. Yet another means to reduce viral load.
Hand washing. A three hundred year old simple technique to reduce load.
Lastly…. build that host immunity.
Virus’s are looking for a susceptible host. That is their mission
A host that is strong takes more load to become sick. Or may not ever get sick.
Dose and Host. The two factors that we should actively manage.
As a country we have a huge number of citizens with weak immunity.
We should not be blasting away at simple methods to reduce viral load. In fact why not show your patriotism and American Team work by wearing a mask, building your immune systems, taking care to break the host to host jump for viral
spreading.
Why not. Who does it hurt ? It hurts no one.
Load. Reduce it!
Host. Build it!
Simple math.
By the way. Sturgis sent positive CV cases to all parts of the USA.
Mark,
You can expect more of this draconian insanity as seen in New York State if people continue to follow your so-called science/ lockdown groupthink…
https://twitter.com/trumpjew/status/1319700373074972672?s=21&fbclid=IwAR0I8x80QW81DagdsumSwJAeCLNu9PSpbOHpvYDqb3jRj-ACvOM5Uh79ktc
Good points, Mark, about looking beyond yourself, at benefits for the community. Here’s how Paul Krugman, a NYTimes columnist put it:
“Many things should be matters of individual choice. The government has no business dictating your cultural tastes, your faith or what you decide to do with other consenting adults.
“But refusing to wear a face covering during a pandemic, or insisting on mingling indoors with large groups, isn’t like following the church of your choice. It’s more like dumping raw sewage into a reservoir that supplies other people’s drinking water.
“Remarkably, many prominent figures still don’t seem to understand (or aren’t willing to understand) why we should be practicing social distancing. It’s not primarily about protecting ourselves — if it were, it would indeed be a personal choice. Instead, it’s about not endangering others. Wearing a mask may provide some protection to the wearer, but mostly it limits the chance that you’ll infect other people.
“Or to put it another way, irresponsible behavior right now is essentially a form of pollution. The only difference is in the level at which behavior needs to be changed. For the most part, controlling pollution involves regulating institutions — limiting sulfur dioxide emissions from power plants, requiring cars to have catalytic converters. Individual choices — paper versus plastic, walking instead of driving — aren’t completely irrelevant, but they have only a marginal effect.
“Controlling a pandemic, on the other hand, mainly requires that individuals change their behavior — covering their faces, refraining from hanging out in bars. But the principle is the same.
“Now, I know that some people are enraged by any suggestion that they should bear some inconvenience to protect the common good. Indeed, for reasons I don’t fully understand, the rage seems most intense when the inconvenience is trivial. Case in point: with around 5,000 Americans dying each week from Covid-19, Donald Trump seems obsessed with the problems he apparently has with low-flush toilets.
“But this is no time for people to indulge their petty obsessions. Trump may complain that “all you hear is Covid, Covid, Covid.” The fact, however, is that the current path of the pandemic is terrifying. And we desperately need leadership from politicians who will take it seriously.”
https://www.nytimes.com/column/paul-krugman
it’s a drag that Marky gets away with abusing the good graces of this forum for his chauvinistic political purposes. I’d much rather talk about milk. But when he – a paramedic – folds-in smarmy virtue-signalling propaganda, pretending his malarky … appealing to “science” and patriot-ism in the same breath … I guess it falls to me to rebut the resident ignoramus
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“If masks don’t work, then why do surgeons wear them?”
A response to people who use the classic fallacious argument, “Well, if masks don’t work, then why do surgeons wear them?”
I’m a surgeon that has performed over 10,000 surgical procedures wearing a surgical mask. However, that fact alone doesn’t really qualify me as an expert on the matter. More importantly, I am a former editor of a medical journal. I know how to read the medical literature, distinguish good science from bad, and fact from fiction. Believe me, the medical literature is filled with bad fiction masquerading as medical science. It is very easy to be deceived by bad science.
Since the beginning of the pandemic I’ve read hundreds of studies on the science of medical masks. Based on extensive review and analysis, there is no question in my mind that healthy people should not be wearing surgical or cloth masks. Nor should we be recommending universal masking of all members of the population. That recommendation is not supported by the highest level of scientific evidence.
First, let’s be clear. The premise that surgeons wearing masks serves as evidence that “masks must work to prevent viral transmission” is a logical fallacy that I would classify as an argument of false equivalence, or comparing “apples to oranges.”
Although surgeons do wear masks to prevent their respiratory droplets from contaminating the surgical field and the exposed internal tissues of our surgical patients, that is about as far as the analogy extends. Obviously, surgeons cannot “socially distance” from their surgical patients (unless we use robotic surgical devices, in which case, I would definitely not wear a mask).
The CoVID-19 pandemic is about viral transmission. Surgical and cloth masks do nothing to prevent viral transmission. We should all realize by now that face masks have never been shown to prevent or protect against viral transmission. Which is exactly why they have never been recommended for use during the seasonal flu outbreak, epidemics, or previous pandemics.
The failure of the scientific literature to support medical masks for influenza and all other viruses, is also why Fauci, the US Surgeon General, the CDC, WHO, and pretty much every infectious disease expert stated that wearing masks won’t prevent transmission of SARS CoV-2. Although the public health “authorities” flipped, flopped, and later changed their recommendations, the science did not change, nor did new science appear that supported the wearing of masks in public. In fact, the most recent systemic analysis once again confirms that masks are ineffective in preventing the transmission of viruses like CoVID-19: https://wwwnc.cdc.gov/eid/article/26/5/19-0994_article
If a surgeon were sick, especially with a viral infection, they would not perform surgery as they know the virus would NOT be stopped by their surgical mask.
Another area of “false equivalence” has to do with the environment in which the masks are worn. The environments in which surgeons wear masks minimize the adverse effects surgical masks have on their wearers.
Unlike the public wearing masks in the community, surgeons work in sterile surgical suites equipped with heavy duty air exchange systems that maintain positive pressures, exchange and filter the room air at a very high level, and increase the oxygen content of the room air. These conditions limit the negative effects of masks on the surgeon and operating room staff. And yet despite these extreme climate control conditions, clinical studies demonstrate the negative effects (lowering arterial oxygen and carbon dioxide re-breathing) of surgical masks on surgeon physiology and performance.
Surgeons and operating room personnel are well trained, experienced, and meticulous about maintaining sterility. We only wear fresh sterile masks. We don the mask in a sterile fashion. We wear the mask for short periods of time and change it out at the first signs of the excessive moisture build up that we know degrades mask effectiveness and increases their negative effects. Surgeons NEVER re-use surgical masks, nor do we ever wear cloth masks.
The public is being told to wear masks for which they have not been trained in the proper techniques. As a result, they are mishandling, frequently touching, and constantly reusing masks in a way that increase contamination and are more likely than not to increase transmission of disease.
Just go watch people at the grocery story or Walmart and tell me what you think about the effectiveness of masks in the community.
If you can’t help but believe and trust the weak retrospective observational studies and confused public health “authorities” lying to you about the benefits and completely ignoring the risks of medical masks, then you should at least reject the illogical anti-science recommendation to block only 2 of the 3 ports of entry for viral diseases. Masks only cover the mouth and nose. They do not protect the eyes.
Jim Meehan, MD
“no time for people to indulge their petty obsessions” … agreed. As long as your voice for the Eastern Establishment whose calling it is, to publish the Central Party Line, were to locate the integrity to do his job properly …. step out of his own echo chamber … acquaint his-self with the contrarian voices who are proving that there is no Pan demic. there never was. It’s the biggest HOAX in history … a myth merchandised by the LugenPress for an ulterior, wicked purpose
I dare you-=all to get the facts. Think for yourself. A good place to start would be the admission by the Centres for Disease Control that no-one has actually isolated this so-called Covid 19 virus. A handy precis of this hypothesis is Jon Rapport’s “The virus that isn’t there”
https://tottnews.com/2020/10/15/the-virus-that-isnt-there/
David,
What an interesting time we live in. My feet are on the ground. The ether around here is mostly devoid of oxygen.
if you’re feeling lightheaded and attribute it to “the ether around here is mostly devoid of oxygen” see if you can grasp this expert opinion re O2 intake when masked. No, the proportion of oxygen to other gases in the local atmosphere hasn’t changed. What’s happening is that sheeple are being brainwashed to accept that reduced functionality in all aspects of personal life / society / especially commerce / etc … is “the new normal”
This is a post from a PPE engineer
I was trained as a chemist. A large part of my professional career was working in various parts of the filtration industry. I developed a line of mixed esters of cellulose membrane filters. Millipore type filters, that were used to sterilize flu vaccines for Merck Sharp and Dohme as well as other medical products companies. I developed respiratory protection products for Wilson Safety Products used in the mining industry. I worked for Baxter developing medical / IV filters. I have patents on three IV filters I invented. Baxter sold more than 5 million of one of those every year for most of a decade. I know a little bit about filters.
Surgical masks were not designed as filters and were not intended to be used as filters. Surgical masks were designed to be used by surgeons standing face down over an operating table holding a patient with an open wound. The surgeon wearing the mask would be able to talk to others in the room without discharging spittle droplets into the patient’s wound. Spittle droplets are large and can cause infection.
I witnessed a test of surgical masks. Small plaster particles were generated in a room. They were visible as a white dust in the air. A man was properly fitted with a surgical mask and spent a short time in the room. When he came out the mask was removed. A camera was focused on the man’s face. The entire area that had been covered by the mask was coated by the white dust. The camera showed that his nostrils and his mouth had been penetrated by the white dust. The dust particles were measured and found to be around 40 micrometers in diameter. The particles that penetrated the mask were the same diameter.
Covid-19 virus molecules are about 0.1 micrometers in diameter. That is 400 times smaller than the plaster particles that penetrated the mask.
Surgical masks will not prevent the wearer from inhaling or exhaling viruses or bacteria. They provide absolutely no protection for either the wearer or anyone nearby.
They create a very dangerous false sense of security for everyone.
They also force the wearer to re-breathe carbon dioxide. Which will over time reduce the wearers blood oxygen level. That can become very dangerous especially for older people.
This farce is being promoted by sleazy politicians who believe that if they can convince people that they are protecting them or creating a safe environment for them by pushing this mask farce those people will re-elect them.
All politicians pushing this dangerous mask farce should be voted out of office as soon as possible.
putting my $$ where your mouth is, Mister McAffee. I am upping the odds : now offering 2 to one that Joe Biden does not make it to the finish line, ie. November 3rd 2020. after all that noise and confusion / smoke and mirrors = he’s nolo contendere
“The New Feudalism”
https://www.aier.org/article/the-new-feudalism/
“In light of all this, I’ve come to have the highest respect for Sunetra’s Gupta’s cry to completely rethink the way we handle social theory in the presence of pathogens. She posits what she called the Social Contract for Infectious Diseases. She explains that it is not a document but rather endogenous and evolutionary in light of what we’ve learned about pathogens over the centuries. We agree to live with them and among them even as we work to build civilization, recognizing freedom and the rights of everyone…
“it’s not surprising at all that a “medieval approach” to disease would also result in the deletion of so many modern advances in social/political understanding and consensus. It was reckless to the point of being evil. It has created a new feudalism of haves and have nots, essentials and unessentials, us and them, the served and the servers, the rulers and the ruled – all defined in the edicts passed by panicked dictators at all levels acting on the advice of bloodless intellectuals who couldn’t resist a chance to rule the world by force.
“One final note: bless those who call this out and refuse to go along.”
The holocaust revisited… welcome to the world of vaccine testing.
https://thevaccinereaction.org/2020/10/brazilian-doctor-dies-participating-in-astrazenecas-covid-19-vaccine-clinical-trial/#comment-66649
This physician who was a volunteer and participant in a Phase 3 clinical trial in Brazil for a COVID-19 vaccine developed by AstraZeneca and Oxford University, died on Oct. 15, 2020. He apparently received the meningococcal vaccine used as a placebo in the trial instead of the experimental coronavirus vaccine.
A “placebo is described as a substance that has no therapeutic effect and used as a control in testing new drugs”. One would think that this so-called “science” based trial should have been disqualified and declared unethical for failing to use an inert substance as a placebo…
To be more explicit, The World War II German concentration camp medical experiments revisited…
EXACTLY!!!!!!!!
In these last few months common sense has been tossed out the door by tone deaf politicians and meddling bureaucrats…
PLAYING IN THE DIRT BUILDS IMMUNITY
https://www.thelunaticfarmer.com/blog/10/29/2020/playing-in-the-dirt-builds-immunity
“It seems self-evident to me that instead of extreme hand washing we should practice immersing our hands and arms in compost. Instead of masking we should be get out and stick our noses in leaves and grass and inhale deeply. Instead of social distancing we should embrace and hug on each other. We can’t extricate ourselves from our ecology and we can’t sterilize our way into immunity. When is it okay to get angry?
“One more thing: can any thinking person defend school lock-outs, 6-8 hours a day of mandatory sterile screen time for our kiddos? Are we bordering on government-mandated child abuse?”
I have long been a Joel Salatin fan. He is perceptive and knowledgeable. But sometimes, he is glib and not very helpful, and I think this is one of those cases. Sure, building our immune systems is essential to good health and resisting disease, like Covid-19. But his suggestions aren’t especially helpful as an immediate remedy to a public health crisis, in which cases are spiking and hospitals are oveflowing.
Sure, lots of people live unhealthy lifestyles, and that’s a big part of the reason many are vulnerable. But that’s the reality. That doesn’t condemn people to not being treated.
There’s evidence that more people are paying attention to improving their lifestyles because of the pandemic. https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-the-insane-amount-millennials-are-spending-on-fitness-2018-01-21
But taking a condescending approach like Joel and many others take isn’t helpful. Nor is simply lecturing people on how the disease didn’t hurt one family or another as much as expected, or how we have our rights not to wear a mask, and all the other things being bandied about. A pandemic is bad news all around, and requires sacrifice and unity of purpose for communities to get through. Otherwise, you wind up with more of what we are seeing around us, with people at each other’s throats and civil unrest threatening.
I have to disagree with you David…
Taking a narrowminded, antagonistic approach towards a perceived virus failing to consider the overall consequences on our physical, economic, psychological and societal wellbeing is far from constructive or “helpful”.
I do agree that we are having a health crisis in the US but you can not suddenly regain health and when your immune system is weak ( like so many) your body will have a big problem if you are suddenly exposed to a lot of microbes that your body is completely unfamiliar with. It takes good nutrition, and quite a bit of time to heal long term chronic illnesses.
You had better “fasten your seatbelt” for this one Mark…
https://www.facebook.com/jimgarlow/videos/10224218519307965
One thing the woman in this video fails to realize is that you need to change or wash your mask so it does not become a petri dish, too. lol what BS
Washed or not as soon as you place that obstruction on your face you immediately begin to recycle contaminated air and even over a short period of time bacteria and viruses etc. increases exponentially…
Your understanding of breathing needs some work. A medical mask or cloth mask is not a sealed room, you are not recirculating your germs or contaminating yourself. You are still able to breath with a cloth mask on. The point of the mask is to make it harder for moisture droplets that viruses can ride on to get into your body through your nose and mouth, and harder for you to spew out moist particles of virus into the air, and now it turns out that aerosolized virus is a bigger concern than originally thought. Wearing a mask helps on both counts, and there’s a network effect: masks work better the more people in a given encounter are wearing them.
I’m probably not explaining this well, but there is just no scientific or practical support for the idea that wearing masks is detrimental. How has the medical profession survived all this time, what with wearing surgical masks and all? Why, in fact, do you think doctors, nurses, and medical technicians wear masks in surgery and around vulnerable patients? Because they help reduce the spread of air-borne (and spittle-born) disease-causing pathogens.
https://news.abs-cbn.com/news/02/24/20/ph-looks-into-efficacy-of-coconut-oil-against-covid-19
“Same Story, Different Decade: How WHO’s Definition of a Global Pandemic Benefits Big Pharma”
https://childrenshealthdefense.org/defender/who-definition-global-pandemic-benefits-big-pharma/?fbclid=IwAR1oxBz3MeDTLsmE3tVDoU6_ATGKKw1c5Zc4r6fr_P33h8wDFxbfXluU2kk
“The panic that surrounded H1N1 swine flu and the subsequent rush to get vaccinated was in part driven by inflated and widely disseminated models which incorrectly predicted thousands upon thousands of people would die from the flu.
‘These models were provided by Professor Neil Ferguson and his team of researchers at Oxford’s Imperial College. Ferguson’s group advised the UK government to prepare for at least 65,000 deaths. By the end of the pandemic, H1N1 swine flu had claimed the lives of just 457 people.” Indeed the same Professor Neil Ferguson that produced these wildly inaccurate and exaggerated SARS CoV-2/Covid-19 models…
As mentioned in the above article “the culprit behind the injuries caused by the GSK H1N1 vaccine was GSK’s AS03 adjuvant”, a squalene-based immunologic adjuvant that some vaccine manufactures intend to use in their genetically engineered Covid-19 vaccine…
I am reading and enjoying the theatrics. I have even learned a little.
Keep it coming. ❤️?.
Our greatest failure both here and internationally is the failure to prevent comorbitity through immunity and gut micro biome nourishment.
“Strong hosts”have little to worry about.
Yes Mark, and “immunity and gut microbiome nourishment” can only be properly developed and maintained via an adequate and diverse exposure to microbes, healthy food and FRESH AIR… It is not achieved via lockdowns, social distancing, wearing face masks and toxic vaccines… To borough Joel Salatin’s words, attempting to “extricate ourselves from our ecology” and “sterilize our way into immunity” is counterproductive and harmful.
I agree about strong hosts, but looking at my county and our health department declaring a “severe outbreak” of covid, the difficult question is can we help our communities come back to health? We have a very unhealthy and poor native American community here, the poor health is a direct result of the type of foods the tribe distributes from the USDA commodity food program, the food is all super processed corporate food rejects and leftovers of the worst possible quality. I am quite sure the USDA pays the corporations top dollar for this food. Where do you begin with intergenerational poverty and lack of access to good food or even the education to understand what to eat? The most important quote in Price’s “Nutrition and Physical Degeneration” was the statement that “Thinking is a biological function” I don’t really know how to frame my thoughts here, but I do believe we are in the midst of an intellectual crisis in our country due to vitamin and mineral deficiencies, poor diets, way too many prescription drugs, and exposure to pollution.
Ken,
Unfortunately our country is populated by a huge number of sick and obese people. Trying to build immunity with that group will result in illness and death.
Our immunity building theory takes time and is a prevention and not intervention step.
Because America is a country based on humanitarian beliefs. It is against our morals to simply kill off swaths of people as those that have strong immune systems survive.
Considering your past bacteriosapien survival of the fittest comments on this blog Mark, I am somewhat baffled by your position advocating the humanitarian cause… Tell me, is it humanitarian to force people into poverty by denying them the right to earn a living? You do realize that because of government arbitrary decisions to lockdown and restrict movement, either by municipal, state, province and/or country, businesses are being forced to shut down and in many cases permanently. People are losing their jobs and people/families are losing their homes… Is it humanitarian to force people to wear masks that the bulk of scientific research suggests are ineffective at preventing the spread of airborne viruses yet are clearly harmful to those that wear them?
As I see it governments have taken it upon themselves to use their power and authority to combat an “invisible enemy” that has not as of yet been identifies (visualized or isolated). This worn out militaristic approach in an attempt to control a microbe/virus is an extremely foolish and high-handed endeavor at best, especially when considering that the Imperial College computer model that was used to justify the decision to enforce these draconian lockdown measures was thoroughly discredited by research scientists at Oxford University. Overall the powers that be have demonstrated a flagrant disregard for concepts that are fundamental to humanitarianism, such as liberty, free speech and common sense.
Do you remember this article by David Gumpert dated Jul 24, 2007 titled, “Mark McAfees Formula: Build Up Immunity to Fear”? In the article and with respect to your formula David states, “But the really big problem he hits on is fear. As he suggests, it’s easier to comprehend the simple idea of killer bacteria (find them and destroy them) than the more complicated idea of different types of bacteria, and learning to build up our internal supply of good bacteria as a way to improve our chances of co-existing with the bad bacteria. I like his term, “bacteriosapiens.”” Indeed, all one needs to do is replace bacteria with virus and the same co-existing analogy applies and perhaps even more so because viruses have a synergistic relationship to bacteria…
https://www.davidgumpert.com/mark-mcafees-formula-build-up-immunity-to-fear
Ken,
Let me acknowledge your point however as I grow older I have come to also appreciate the greater suffering of those less fortunate. Those that don’t have strong immune systems or the knowledge on how to built it.
I spend the majority of my time teaching and explaining the human condition and how to fix it. The micro biome is still a foreign concept ! Most doctors are clueless and their patients are suffering greatly. Compassion and humanity while teaching is a very important combination.
Polyface Farms to host Weston A. Price conference on November 15th…
https://www.thelunaticfarmer.com/blog/11/5/2020/hosting-wappers
If people think they understand the concept of immunity they ought to read this well thought out article titled, “Beyond cell wars It is time to disarm the military metaphor of the body as a battleground, with immune cells as the first line of defence”
https://aeon.co/essays/why-we-should-guard-against-military-notions-of-immunity
The article also compliments the following 2006 Advances in Immunology report titled “A Reappraisal of Humoral Immunity Based on Mechanisms of Antibody‐Mediated Protection Against Intracellular Pathogens, Arturo Casadevall M.D. and Liise-Anne Pirofski, M.D. professors in the Department of Medicine and the Department of Microbiology & Immunology at Albert Einstein College of Medicine that pointed out, “Clearly, defining protective efficacy of an Ab (antibody) molecule in a predictive fashion is currently beyond the state of immunological science and may not be possible with current reductionistic approaches to scientific problems.” Emphasis in brackets mine.
Militaristic and Reductionistic would be an appropriate way to describe the current simplistic methods being used to address these so-called Covid-19 illnesses…
Apart from the “experts” that produced this “astonishing failure” admitting to their error, equally and more importantly, will the germaphobes that bought into this astonishing error/scheme, be able to focus beyond their hysteria…
https://www.aier.org/article/it-was-a-mistake-to-close-schools-uk-study-concedes/
“From the beginning, the lockdowns were a policy in search of a rationale. In all these intervening months, none has been forthcoming. And we are only now seeing the solid research proving that the skeptics were correct from the beginning. The only question now is whether and when the “experts” that produced this astonishing failure will admit their error. Perhaps the answer is: when the media start reporting on it.}
“Asymptomatic Spread Revisited”
https://www.aier.org/article/asymptomatic-spread-revisited/
“We keep hearing about how we should follow the science. The claim is tired by now. We know what’s really happening. The lockdown lobby ignores whatever contradicts their narrative, preferring unverified anecdotes over an actual scientific study of 10 million residents in what was the world’s first major hotspot for the disease we are trying to manage. You would expect this study to be massive international news. So far as I can tell, it is being ignored.”
Indeed, “With solid evidence that asymptomatic spread is nonsense, we have to ask: who is making decisions and why?”
Irresponsible, and good for them cancelling. Having worked as a nurse from the beginning of this pandemic, and having my employer’s cancer center shut down due to several staff being infected and infecting patients, and having seen several hundred people die first hand during my 23-year career as a direct-care nurse, and having been involved in a hundred or two attempted resuscitations, and having worked in a hospital that was packed and out of beds more than once, I am disturbed at the brash insensitivity and selfishness of people who purport to promote health by immunity. So what if weak people die? Maybe unbeknownst to you, your white blood cells get bombarded by a disease you didn’t know you had when you ASSUMED you were a healthy person, and you’re the next person to get parked in a semi-truck cooler in Brooklyn for 6 months because the morgue is too busy! Do you know what your white blood cell differential is TODAY? It doesn’t stay the same one day to the next, and many variables influence it besides what you eat! Pandemic deniers who feel it is below them to wear a mask for the protection of others, and to make a point of this being a hoax do not deserve any sympathy. I don’t care if you didn’t get sick, personally. What I care about is the 10 patients you MADE sick because you don’t want to get with the program. I care that you give ME the virus when I have 20 other patients to see, who I could give it to. You think that it’s no big deal they have cancer? Put that on a billboard: “PEOPLE WITH CANCER CAN DIE TODAY, NO PROBLEM!” Wear a button with the slogan! I have to take care of such pompous shits when they get sick and say they’re sorry. I dropped in here for the first time in a year or so, and I’m not sure I’ll be back for another year. Immunity is a great thing when one has it. It is a good thing to build. But it isn’t some cure-all savior! Sick people still have to be protected, and treated! Most of the people I see when I go to work each day don’t have very good immunity. People who refuse to wear masks are just selfish dicks who kill vulnerable people and don’t care if others die, plain and simple. I don’t spend my days trying to save people so you can get off not wearing a mask or social distancing. Just take a gun and shoot a bunch of people, so we can see you for who you really are.